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    October to December 2011 NODC Ocean Heat Content Anomalies (0-700Meters) Update and Comments | Watts Up With That?

    Figure 1 compares the ARGO-era Ocean Heat Content observations to an extension of the linear trend of the climate models presented in Hansen et al (2005) for the period of 1993 to 2003. Over that period, the modeled OHC rose at 0.6 watt-years per year. I’ve converted the watt-years to Gigajoules using the conversion factor readily available through Google: 1 watt years = 31,556,926 joules. Even with the recent uptick in Global Ocean Heat Content anomalies, the trend of the GISS projection is still 3.5 times higher than the observed trend.
    So do you trust NASA

    That is the model is 3.5x higher than the REAL WORLD OBSERVED DATA so could this be proof of the AGW fantasy world
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    Perhaps you should read this link which clealry exposes AGW deniers misrepresentation of e.g. Hansen's data :-

    Patrick Michaels Continues to Distort Hansen 1988, Part 2

    -and you would do well to read the link in YOUR reference to how Tamino has debunked Tisdale :-

    Favorite Denier Tricks, or How to Hide the Incline | Open Mind

    Thrashed the deneirs EVERY time.

    YOU'VE LOST AGAIN MBP

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    Who does the world believe ? NASA, NOAA, all National science organisations ...... or Wattsy ?

    Who do you believe MBP
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    De ja Vous ?

    If you can stand reading the truth have a read of this By Patrick Michaels himself : A Response to Skeptical Science

    He does not need others to tell him what he meant. He is more clever than all on RC put together as he proves in the link above.
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    Oh yes, a poster on the above reminds you of the hipocrisy at RC

    '' And what if a graph is partially reproduced? As long as it’s appropriately referenced it doesn’t matter. That’s what Phil Jones said re hide the decline:
    We do not accept that [the divergence problem] was hidden because it was discussed in a paper the year before and we have discussed it in every paper we have written on tree rings and climate''
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    Patrick Michaels is derided as a ff shill by the vast majority of other scientists and he doesn't deny he is paid handsomely by ff's and Heartland. What you are still denying MBP is that in those links I've given you they CLEARLY show the mathamtical/graphical lies & distortions Michaels has made. He's a first order crook. If he was in business and tried those tricks he would have been jailed.

    He's sunk, you're sunk - get over it.
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    Patrick Michaels is derided as a ff shill by the vast majority of other scientists and he doesn't deny he is paid handsomely by ff's and Heartland.
    mathamtical/graphical lies & distortions
    My bold - (I would have though you could have spelled this word correctly considering you claim to be a scientist and a statistician)

    In those links I've given you they CLEARLY show the mathematical/graphical techniques he used. Obviously you are too scared to read them as it shows up RC's 'technical' abilities. Looks like the whole of RC v Patrick Michaels and Michaels wins hands down, S L A M D U N K

    So do you think that anyone that is proven to use mathematical tricks to draw a graph should be sent to prison? perhaps we actually agree on something.
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    In those links I've given you they CLEARLY show the mathematical/graphical techniques he used.
    They DO - but everybody else even slightly competent in Maths/Stats recognises Michaels used those techniques FRAUDULENTLY !!!

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    So do you think that anyone that is proven to use mathematical tricks to draw a graph should be sent to prison?
    No I don't - and stop creating a strawman. I said when fraudulent tricks like this are used in business.

    (& picking me up on a spelling mistake made by quickly typing a response - yes MBP this is is only level you can debate at now - get lost troll)
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    I said when fraudulent tricks like this are used in business.
    So they are ok when used in an academic paper ? When are they ok exactly ?

    Well we all know how you debate Clippo, if it is the same Clippo as on Realclimate
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    Why would any self respecting scientist use a unit as idiotic as watt-years???? Power x time is energy which is joules! Only a moron who failed his "O" level physics would come up with such a pratt unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Why would any self respecting scientist use a unit as idiotic as watt-years???? Power x time is energy which is joules!
    Is your bill for electrical energy in Joules?
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