Thread: The truth about the BNP rumours

He shouldnt just offer he should just do it, he could, just maybe, leave with a modicum of dignity.

Originally Posted by andynewton

Toque you should stick to the UAF and stop trying to undermine the EDs. Incidentally, Richard Barnbrook is a moderate and has an important GLA seat for the party. Butler does have some form but I don't think he is an Ethno nationalist as such.

Originally Posted by andynewton

This veering from chaos to comedy has been going on a long time and is usually driven by Steve Uncles. He has a propensity to castigate the "Far Right" then form alliances with them as with the EFP. His overtures to Sein Fein should have got him expelled but Tillbrook slumbers on. The only way to save the EDs is to get rid of Uncles.
My points are that the supercilious moralists should not be so easily led by the media in thinking Barnbrook is an extremist. He is not. I am not sure about Butler but I don't think he is an Ethno nationalist. He has baggage but a lot of experience and could save this party with his elections nous. Attacking these two is cheap and easy but there just might be a silver lining coming with them.

Originally Posted by blueblood1920

Butler is an Ethno Nationalist, he actually posted on his blog that a true nationalist can only be an Ethno Nationalist and as such he wouldnt use the term 'ethno Nationalist' just 'Nationalist'.

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

I get fed up of the England cause being dragged down into ethnicity. Our nation is getting shafted left right and centre, and people want to discuss ethnicity.

Pathetic.

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He would have agreed anyway, like the sinn fien letter

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Just posted on the COSG site

Following an invitation by Derek Hilling the National Party Secretary of the English Democrats, Richard Barnbrook - London Assembly Member, attended the English Democrats National Council meeting on Saturday 15 January 2011 in Coventry to explain why, he would like to join the English Democrats party.

Following discussion, and debate, the English Democrats National Council voted to allow Richard Barnbrook to join the English Democrats party in the Capacity as London Assembly Member, subject to further discussions/agreement with the English Democrats London Area Council.

BOTH

Robin Tilbrook (National Party Chairman)
&
Steven Uncles (National Communications Director)

announced their intention to abstain from the vote, for reasons given at the time to the National Council Meeting, before the vote took place.

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Cliff Dixon Deputy Area Chairman for London (non NC Member) attending as a guest of Roger Cooper London Area Chairman, said very little when he had a opportunity to question Richard Barnbrook at the meeting.

It was agreed that when matters had been decided by the London Area Council of the English Democrats (a body that includes Cliff Dixon), a formal announcement would be made and that ALL in attendance would respect the confidential nature of English Democrats National Council meetings.

Why Cliff Dixon, has disrespected the Democratic workings of the English Democrats party, is a matter known only by Cliff Dixon at this time.

Oh dear - This post has all the fingerprints of a certain Mr S Uncles all over it.

"Following the invitation by Derek Hilling the national party secretary of The English Democrats to Richard Barnbrook" - What invitation? Derek and the rest of the NC were unaware that Barnbrook would be addressing the meeting on Saturday. I have a copy of the agenda sat in front of me now, and of the 17 points on it, not one regards a certain Richard Barnbrook addressing the NC of The English Democrats. A vote of no confidence in Uncles was proposed at the meeting, and deemed not admissable as it was not on the agenda - Barnbrook was only allowed to address the NC because it was pointed out that Item 12 (Membership applications from ex BNP members - CV?/RC?) could be used to justify it, and as he doesn't drive and had to be ferried up by another NC member, he shouldn't be left to sit in the foyer on his own (A joke was cracked that we could have a whip round for his train back if necessary)

If I attended as a guest of Roger Cooper, why was item 4 on the agenda titled "Allegations of improper conduct against Steve Uncles - CD & SU" ? Would a guest be on the agenda? Indeed, why have I been at every NC meeting in my capacity as Roger Cooper's deputy for the last 6 months, and have held his proxy vote on the previous 4?

The comment about confidentiality is a joke - Uncles posts whatever he sees fit from these meetings, and has done for a long time. Besides which, I put the post up last night because much of what I confirmed had already leaked out anyway, and was damaging the party. I have frequently said that many of these items need to be addressed in the way of a formal party statement that quells rumours and gives the reality of any situation - Unfortunately, you only have to look at who the communications officer is to see why things have been allowed to fester so long.

NORTHUMBRIAN - I have tried to address these issues within the party for months - You have been inside, so know what goes on. I was encouraged to get after Uncles and have it out at The December NC, but the resolve was gone by January. It is impossible to get an EGM going, because only certain people at the top of the party (And Eddy Butler/Limelight) have the full party lists - It takes me months to get an updated area list for Hillingdon, let alone anywhere else (Which I am not entitled to anyway).

How can I get the party to deal with the behaviour of Steve Uncles if they are unaware of it? Hence my use of his favourite medium - The one where he has mocked suicide victims, insulted the Irish, referred to the ED as 'Right Wing', the list goes on.