Thread: EDP North West Organizer and the Ulster Loyalists

Originally Posted by cassie

Given that the EDP, however insignificant some here prefer to regard it, is actually the most significant English nationalist party at present. It may be that the EIP will burgeon and overtake if not supplant the EDP but, until such time arrives, the EDP remains the predominant English nationalist party. It follows then that, in that in the absence of any feasible alternative, an attack on the EDP is an attack on England, the English and Englishness itself.

No it does not follow, old man.

Were I to be the only person in the world who campaigned for snails to be protected by law, and someone criticised me because I was abusive to people on public transport, that would not make that person "anti-snail".

Your logic would be deemed feeble in a dim fifth-former - you're well past it aren't you?

Originally Posted by Mr Rob

No it does not follow, old man.

Were I to be the only person in the world who campaigned for snails to be protected by law, and someone criticised me because I was abusive to people on public transport, that would not make that person "anti-snail".

Your logic would be deemed feeble in a dim fifth-former - you're well past it aren't you?

Thank you for sharing that with us Gareth. Now you've rid yourself of more bile, you can go back to your cocoa and walking that apology of a dog of yours!


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Originally Posted by cassie

Thank you for sharing that with us Gareth. Now you've rid yourself of more bile, you can go back to your cocoa and walking that apology of a dog of yours!

Ah, you can't refute what I said then - so instead you fall back on the insults against Toque, who apparently is me in your fevered mind. And to think that some on here thought you were intelligent (although never as intelligent as you thought yourself to be )! But you're not much cop really are you old fella?

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

It was all in one post and he was talking about his opinions of the parties standing. I do not see a problem with this. He didn't think much of any of them, that is his own opinion.

You should be grateful. There are often complaints by EDs that they are not given the same attention as main parties - at least Mr Lightfoot was inclusive!



It wasn't Chris Lightfoot who pointed out that the EDs' claims that they would be taking legal action were feeble and showed an embarrassing lack of legal knowledge.

He was entitled to his view of the EDs and I thought he argued his point reasonably well. Uncles didn't.
And I will still make the point that Chris Lightfoot did a hell of a lot more for English society than Steven Uncles has. There has been zero examples of anything he has done.




And you wouldn't ever entertain the notion then that many many people do not put 'Englishness' at the forefront of their party political priorities?

In many ways it is because the English Democrats are such a shambolic, failing mess yet they have taken it upon themselves to try to represent me as an Englishman that I find most insulting!

We don't claim to represent people that don't exist - Foulmouth - you are a figment of someone's immagination - you don't actually exist - get over it !

Originally Posted by Mr Rob

Ah, you can't refute what I said then - so instead you fall back on the insults against Toque, who apparently is me in your fevered mind. And to think that some on here thought you were intelligent (although never as intelligent as you thought yourself to be )! But you're not much cop really are you old fella?

At least Cassie still has a marriage, unlike Gareth Young the "Saviour of Snails".

Originally Posted by Steve Uncles

Gareth Young and his Snail Campaign - no that is really funny

Did you just pop in to see how your pet was doing Steve? Not very well I'm afraid, he doesn't defend your views or your party very effectively, so best still kept at a distance so you can disassociate yourself from him if needs be It's a good tactic, surprised you came up with it!

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

It was all in one post and he was talking about his opinions of the parties standing. I do not see a problem with this. He didn't think much of any of them, that is his own opinion.

Whether it was his opinion or not is beside the point, that it was vulgarly expressed and hardly closely argued, but more like prejudiced ranting.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

You should be grateful. There are often complaints by EDs that they are not given the same attention as main parties - at least Mr Lightfoot was inclusive!

I would have thought that it was clear beyond peradventure that the English Democrats could well have done without Lightfoot's crudely expressed and biassed opinions which enlighted no one but merely indulged his own anti-English prejudices.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

It wasn't Chris Lightfoot who pointed out that the EDs' claims that they would be taking legal action were feeble and showed an embarrassing lack of legal knowledge.

Who was embarrassed? I suspect that the alleged 'embarrassment' is in your mind, and you trot out that notion in order to bolster a weak position.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

He was entitled to his view of the EDs and I thought he argued his point reasonably well. Uncles didn't.

If that was the work of an alleged university educated polymath in action, it was woefully inadequate. However, you are entitled to your opinion.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

And I will still make the point that Chris Lightfoot did a hell of a lot more for English society than Steven Uncles has.

If he did, we are still short of any concrete facts.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

There has been zero examples of anything he has done.

You are one of those making unsubstantiated claims about Lightfoot's achievements and making an unnecessary, less than impartial comparison with Uncles.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

And you wouldn't ever entertain the notion then that many many people do not put 'Englishness' at the forefront of their party political priorities?

Now you've shifted from my point about the English Democrats Party to theorising about individuals' possible opinions. Why would I want to entertain that particular notion in relation to the point I argued?

Originally Posted by Sebastian Melmouth

In many ways it is because the English Democrats are such a shambolic, failing mess yet they have taken it upon themselves to try to represent me as an Englishman that I find most insulting!

This is aside from the point! Whether they do it well or badly, there is no other political party which puts England and the English at the forefront of their policies and objectives. Moreover, they have not "taken it upon themselves to represent" you as an Englishman or anyone else as such, they merely afford a choice, and it is open to other parties to offer similar choices. The fact is that, apart from the EIP, they don't, and you disparaging the EDP doesn't change that one iota . . . although I can understand that you might want to get away from that fact as rapidly as possible.

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