Thread: UKIP Offerred Robin Tilbrook the Deputy Leadership of UKIP

Offerred Robin Tilbrook the Deputy Leadership of UKIP

At the English Democrats National Council, 2010 Elections de-brief on Saturday in Nottingham - it was revealed that desperate UKIP offerred the English Democrats National Chairman Robin Tilbrook, the "Deputy Leadership of UKIP" if Robin, stood down all the English Democrats candidates during the 2010 General Election Campaign, and closed down the English Democrats party.

With English Democrats comfortably beating UKIP in the more established English Democrats areas, like Doncaster, Dartford, and Raleigh, it is not surprising that UKIP are resorting to such desperate measures.

If you compare the TV Performances of Robin Tilbrook and "Screaming" Lord Pearson, it is not surprising that UKIP would want Robin Tilbook as part of their team.

Fortunately, Robin Tilbrook has no intention of changing from an English Nationalist to a British Nationalist.

Links to proof then Steve or is this another embellished story from jackanory with Uncle Steve.

Is there any proof? Are there any links? If not North people will not believe it, the UKip wanted nothing to do with the EDP, and Uncles slagged them off terribly, then out of the blue Robin supposedly, I only say that because there is no proof as yet, stated he was asked to be deputy leader. honestly dont see the likes of farage and co welcoming that move. But is robin known to tell a porkie? No
Is he known for embellishing the truth? Yes, this has been proven on the alliance for democracy thread, where I posted a letter from him stating the alliance was in talks, yet we all know they already had 4 N/C meetings, so they were way beyond talk stage.
So without proof, no one except the susceptible few will believe this with out any shred of doubt.
Not calling you a liar North, but personally I would take that as embellished, until there is proof and links to it.

On ed candidate blogs and on threads on this forum byu uncles, Ukip refused to do anything with the EDP, you commented on the thread, so from then till now every thing is different, if so why has it come out now? And up to a couple of days a go Uncles was posting rubbish about ukip.
Weird how it has all stopped.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters. ~ Albert Einstein
Uncles and co have lied to many times now. Things are hard to take as gospel,
no slight on you, you always have been honest when answering directly.

The 2010 Election Deal that UKIP threw away .....



The 2010 Election Deal that UKIP threw away

Ever since I have been involved in small party politics, every so often people have said to me, "Your party has got some good ideas, but why don't you get together with the other small parties to give a credible option for the voters in the General Election".

The Alliance for Democracy was an attempt to do exactly this. In 2010 several organisations had the same thought, notably Paul Judge from the Jury Team and the Popular Alliance Party.

Organisation to get an Alliance together, occurred in September 2009, both the Popular Alliance and the English Democrats took the lead in organising the first meeting.

There was a good turn out for the first meeting, with the English Democrats, Christian Party, Jury Team, and Popular Alliance, UK First, Veritas and Alan Wood from UKIP.

Negotiations and discussions took place, and indeed a great deal of agreement was made.

However, after a number of meetings it became clear that the Popular Alliance, Veritas and UK First, neither were willing to invest money in the concept, nor were able to field more then 1 or 2 candidates each.

This therefore left 3 Parties in the Alliance for Democracy - English Democrats, Christian Party and Jury team (With the Independents Federation joining later)

The Christian Party were keen to maintain their own identity so they took Associate status, even though there was core policy agreement between the three parties.

However at the end of March 2010, Lord Pearson announced that UKIP would be working with other serious Euro-Sceptic Parties in the 2010 General Election.

Sir Paul Judge, immediately contacted Lord Pearson, as they already had a relationship, and a breakfast meeting was organised on Wednesday 24 March 2010.

Lord Pearson, James Prior from UKIP, Sir Paul Judge, Robin Tilbrook, George Hargreaves were all present, and at this stage an agreement in principle for UKIP to join the Alliance for Democracy was reached.

The atmosphere was very positive and Lord Pearson explained that he wished to put the Country before his party.

Following the initial meeting to co-operate in principle, a second meeting was arranged the following day, where the detail would be arranged.

However this time the UKIP "heavies" form the Eastern Counties and South West turned up with Lord Pearson and James Prior. These UKIPpers, had got the strategy to simply destroy the deal.

Strangely these heavies explained that they did not want to win any UKIP seats, they simply wanted to gain more popular votes.

However Lord Pearson, had a break out meeting, where he explained that he wanted to make the deal happen, so all parties sat down and worked out on a seat by seat basis where each of the parties could stand.

UKIP - would stand in 412 Seats (England, Scotland & Wales)
English Democrats would stand in 110 Seats (England)
Christian Party would stand in 110 Seats (London, Scotland & Wales)

Sir Paul Judge in order to facilitate the deal made the generous offer to potentially stand down from the General Election.

Giving 632 Seats to Cover England Scotland & Wales.

The details for an historic deal were set; UKIP simply had to put the deal through their NEC to make it happen.

Alas the UKIP NEC rejected the deal - no reason was given to the Alliance for Democracy.

Mysterious UKIP candidates were then parachuted in to where the English Democrats had previously been declared as standing without competition from UKIP - resulting in 97 conflicts with the English Democrats in the 107 seats where English Democrats were standing.

The question is, did UKIP really want to shift their power base from Brussels to Westminster - those UKIP NEC Members depend on the EU for their salaries via their MEP paymasters ?

Steven Uncles
National Operations & Campaign Director
& South East Area Chairman

English Democrats
Alliance for Democracy
Not Right Not Left Just English!

Posted a few weeks before this thread.
So logically, what should we believe? Robin is telling the truth, Uncles is telling the truth, or is it just spin and lies again?