Boatang & Demetriou: The English Democrats Party - what a complete joke

Sunday, 31 May 2009
The English Democrats Party - what a complete joke

So I threw down the Gauntlet to Steve Uncles. He picked it up, ran back to his hovel, poked about with it a bit, dropped it and ran away giggling. He is the quintessential troll, except this one has less green hair and less intelligence.

I've done so many articles and exposes on this man and his despicable, questionable and shady party, that you the reader may be forgiven for losing track on events.

So, to summarise and make things easy for you to trace and track what has been happening between the country's best blog and Steve Uncles (lead candidate for the EDP, S/E region in the Euro Elections), I've decided to put links to all my articles below. They are in order of when they were written, earliest to the most recent:

1 - June 4th and the Euro Elections - some thoughts.

2 - English Democrats Party declares war on Boaty & D.

3 - Imminent Euro 09 Election and further musings.

4 - Our War with the EDP, ill-mannered idiots & the Constitution - a catch up.

5 - EDP's Steve Uncles attacks Boatang & Demetriou - again!

6 - Throwing down the Gauntlet to Steve Uncles of the EDP.

7 - Steve Uncles: 'To be critical of the EDP is to be anti-English'.

It's all there in black and white. Importantly, a good deal of the, er, debate has been happening 'off the pitch', over at The ***** Site, also known to some as the British Democracy Forum. A place where, seemingly, misfits, odd-balls and fringe-party nerks go to vent and gloat and do things like slag off bloggers without having the guts to go to their sites on their own volition.

Credit goes to SteveShark and Mr Rob for wading through the black, gloopy swamp and doing their best to fish for answers to key questions. They came back empty handed, which I think is evidence enough in itself.

My 6th article entitled 'Throwing down the Gauntlet to Steve Uncles...' was interesting in that Steve Uncles managed to spit out some answers (albeit on the ***** Site) before clambering back underneath his spore infested rock.

I'll reproduce once more his answers to my questions:



"Ques: Do you believe that being critical of the English Democrats Party and its manifesto is tantamount to being anti-English?

Ans: Yes

Ques: If so, please give your reasons.

Ans: The English Democrats Manifesto is "Common sense" and simply putting England on a level playing field with Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland - please tell me where it does not do this in our 2009 Manifesto ?

Ques: How do you define 'English' in terms of a person's ancestry/genetic make up/blood etc

"English" is where your heart is - it's that simple.

Ques: and do you see England as being a country that should exclude non English people at any level?

No - as anyone who considers themselves to be English is English

Ques: What are your policies on immigration?

Sensible - did you know that England is the most densely populated country in Europe ?

Ques: How would an English Parliament work and how would it work alongside a Westminster government?

Ans: There are several models that could be used.
(see Campaign for English Parliament Site)

Ans: The model introduce in Australia and Canada by the British Government is one I personally favour.

Ques: What would the separation of powers look like?

Ans: See our manifesto - similar to the seperation between the Scottish Parliament and Westminster (British Parliament)

Ques: When you criticise people for being 'liberal self haters' and 'anglophobes' and 'racists' or 'bigots' against the English, what evidence do you use to come to these conclusions?


Ans You are a perfect example - even though the behaviour of our current MPs is totally disgraceful, you wish to "label" anyone in England as patriotic as a racist - you would not do the same for Plaid Cymru or the SNP - you have simply been brain washed into associating the Cross of St George with the "Far Right" this is NOT the case with the English Democrats.


Ques There you go, five questions. You don't have to answer all of them, or in that particular order.

Ans - well thank you very much

Here is a question for YOU.

What research did you do on the English Consitutinoal "Problem" before writing your original article ?"

If you read this Q&A on its own, without reference to any of the goings on between me, fellow bloggers and Steve Uncles and his crew of dodgy forum pirates, then you just might garner the impression that there's not much wrong here.

Which is why you really ought to catch up on the whole fiasco. Between me, Mr Rob, SteveShark and Toque (a passionate campaigner for an English Parliament and a free thinker), we've exposed more on the EDP and its, er, 'politics' than a streaker on Grand National Day.

If you want to read my responses to Mr Uncles's 'answers', then you can find them on the comments section of the Gauntlet article.

I think it is perfectly possible to maintain a respectable and decent position on the whole 'English Parliament' campaign, without being tarnished by this lot. I have no problems with sensible people who want to debate. Some have come to this blog and I have engaged in some polite, civilised debate with them. Simon Lock, for instance, and Toque. Even Paul Kingsnorth dropped by and whilst I didn't (as I recall) respond to his writing, I found him informative and interesting.

So, I have no agenda here.

Two motives have kept me writing:

1 - Mr Uncles's behaviour was so abhorrent and unacceptable, I felt compelled to set the record straight and seek an apology from him. In addition to that, I wanted him to debate with me on my blog, rather than run around the ***** Site writing disgraceful things about me, calling me 'racist', a 'liberal self hater', a hater of England and Englishness amongst many other things.

Most importantly, however...

2 - As a political blogger, I felt compelled, in the circumstances, to dig more and write about the EDP and its modus operandi. The coming Euro elections are unique, in that there hasn't been this amount of widespread detestation of the three main parties for a long time. Protest voting will be rife. It is therefore a duty, as a blogger, to highlight the activities of prominent people in the English Democrats Party, in order to raise awareness to the public on what they are about.

I generally, as I have always said, like sticking to the mantra of 'show not tell'. Why 'tell' people the score, when you can simply highlight what is already there - i.e. 'show'.

So please, dear readers, have a dig about and make your own minds up.

Meanwhile, I have no doubt at all that Mr Steve 'Bonkers Duracell Bunny' Uncles will continue to provide me with a fresh wealth of material about which to write and discuss on this blog. He has a habit of gutlessly copying and pasting my articles and ripping them (and me) on the ***** Site - he'll probably do the same to this.

The subsequent discussion and words stated on that site will promulgate further comment, and further exposure to his tawdry outfit and his warped personality.

Tea's up! See you soon, readers...

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Note that "John Demetriou" is "afraid" of this site.

He is also afraid of words like "Common Sense"

Yet another Liberal Self Hater for the Dust bin !!!!!!!!