Thread: Oh ! What Fun ! - This is Neutral Terriotory

Saturday, 30 May 2009
Throwing down the gauntlet to Steve Uncles of the English Democrats Party

I've decided on a new approach to try and get Steve Uncles to come here to debate with me and answer my questions.

My previous efforts (and there have been numerous over the last three days) have failed. Instead Mr Uncles continues to sneer, scoff, chortle and hide on his British Democracy Forum like a coward. He continues to copy and paste my articles without permission or notification on that forum, and then make incessant rude and defamatory remarks about me for no reason.

So this thread is an open thread for Steve Uncles.

I kindly ask, as a one off request to readers, not to post any comments on this article. It is between Steve Uncles and myself.

This is partly because I want to prove whether he comes here at all and whether he has the intelligence and/or guts to turn up and put a showing in for his party, in light of his recent bad publicity for the English Democrats.

I fully anticipate seeing a '0 comments' tagline at the bottom of this piece. I do not think he will come, but there's an outside chance that by throwing down the gauntlet here, he might at least try.

Lest he comes and decides to litter this thread with more of his rubbish, though that would at least be an improvement on his past behaviour, I will ask him several questions here for him to think about and respond to, to get the ball rolling.



Do you believe that being critical of the English Democrats Party and its manifesto is tantamount to being anti-English? If so, please give your reasons.
How do you define 'English' in terms of a person's ancestry/genetic make up/blood etc and do you see England as being a country that should exclude non English people at any level?
What are your policies on immigration?
How would an English Parliament work and how would it work alongside a Westminster government? What would the separation of powers look like?
When you criticise people for being 'liberal self haters' and 'anglophobes' and 'racists' or 'bigots' against the English, what evidence do you use to come to these conclusions?
There you go, five questions. You don't have to answer all of them, or in that particular order.

If, however, and I know you check this site pretty much every day, you decide not to come here to answer or debate or account for yourself, I'll reach the following conclusion:

That you are a coward, an imbecile, an ignoramus, an ill-mannered fool and someone wholly incapable and inappropriate in running for the European Parliamentary elections as the lead candidate for the South East region on behalf of the English Democrats Party.

I'll give you till, say, Sunday teatime to show up. If you fail to do so, I will be comfortable in my assertion that the aforementioned is true and proven beyond reasonable doubt in the minds of reasonable, intelligent readers of B&D.

Over to you, Mr Uncles.

The challenge begins now...

Posted by John Demetriou at 12:54

Labels: a challenge to steve uncles, english democrats, european elections 2009, ****** up politics, throwing down the gauntlet

Ques: Do you believe that being critical of the English Democrats Party and its manifesto is tantamount to being anti-English?

Ans: Yes

Ques: If so, please give your reasons.

Ans: The English Democrats Manifesto is "Common sense" and simply putting England on a level playing field with Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland - please tell me where it does not do this in our 2009 Manifesto ?

Ques: How do you define 'English' in terms of a person's ancestry/genetic make up/blood etc

"English" is where your heart is - it's that simple.

Ques: and do you see England as being a country that should exclude non English people at any level?

No - as anyone who considers themselves to be English is English

Ques: What are your policies on immigration?

Sensible - did you know that England is the most densely populated country in Europe ?

Ques: How would an English Parliament work and how would it work alongside a Westminster government?

Ans: There are several models that could be used.
(see Campaign for English Parliament Site)

Ans: The model introduce in Australia and Canada by the British Government is one I personally favour.

Ques: What would the separation of powers look like?

Ans: See our manifesto - similar to the seperation between the Scottish Parliament and Westminster (British Parliament)

Ques: When you criticise people for being 'liberal self haters' and 'anglophobes' and 'racists' or 'bigots' against the English, what evidence do you use to come to these conclusions?


Ans You are a perfect example - even though the behaviour of our current MPs is totally disgraceful, you wish to "label" anyone in England as patriotic as a racist - you would not do the same for Plaid Cymru or the SNP - you have simply been brain washed into associating the Cross of St George with the "Far Right" this is NOT the case with the English Democrats.


Ques There you go, five questions. You don't have to answer all of them, or in that particular order.

Ans - well thank you very much

Here is a question for YOU.

What research did you do on the English Consitutinoal "Problem" before writing your original article ?

I have posted the link to the above on John's blog