Ban on Scot. constituency MPs voting on English legislation if Tories win (report)
Scottish constituency MPs would be banned from voting on specifically English matters in the House of Commons if the Conservatives win the next General Election an ITV Teletext report states (the report also says that Conservative leader David Cameron believes that if the people of Scotland want a referendum on quitting the UK they should have one - but no promise from him of a retrospective referendum on the EU Constitution Lisbon 'Treaty'):
Teletext National News - Tory plan over Scots MPs
Thanks Britannist excellent thread for debate.Originally Posted by Britannist
I can see lots of problems with that one. I think he's said that rather than giving the English a parliament is because he wants you to inherit Westminster and it's FPTP as the de facto English Parliament...... Wonder why?Scots MPs would be banned from voting on legislation which only applies in England under a new policy unveiled by Conservative leader David Cameron.
Yes we all know about manifesto promises.Mr Cameron said the move to deal with the West Lothian Question was likely to form part of the party's manifesto at the next General Election.
The devil's in the detail, how would that be determined? Polls already show that aroud 80% of Scots want a referendum.He also said that a referendum on independence should be held if it was shown the majority of Scots wanted one.
Notice he didn't say the remainder of the UK would be included. Tough luck Cassie!
Bad call DannyThanks Britannist excellent thread for debate.
Many of us here regard Cameron essentially as yet another Scot bent on denying England being able to exercise powers as a nation! 'Localism' is his latest gimmick!
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Would all those reading this please confirm or deny that the Scots are somehow screwing England?
What total rubbish! Yet it's the ED mantra that all the problems with the UK, particularly ENGLAND is the fault of the Scots.
Yet in their crazy twisted logic, even though they hate us, they want to preserve the union..... any theories as to why?
You're the gimmick, totally loco!'Localism' is his latest gimmick!
Thank you
Thank you for your kind comment, Danny.Thanks Britannist - excellent thread for debate.
Westminster, English Democrats, UK, Scottish, Parliament, Labour's devolution, powers
The English Democrats (ED) favour the Union of the UK and one leading member of that party has said that he has some Scottish ancestry.
I also support the Union of the UK and note that more Scottish people in Scotland want to remain in the UK than want to quit it. I further note that 60.4% of those entitled to vote in the devolution referendum in Scotland on 11.9.1997 did not vote meaning that a minority of 44.9% backed the return of the Scottish Parliament.
An opinion poll showed that a majority of the people of England want an English Parliament within the UK to match the powers of the one in Scotland.
Here in England we never asked for Labour's devolution - but now it is here (in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland that is) it is only fair that England has legislative equality with Scotland within the Union of UK. The re-establishment of the English Parliament would address the constitutional imbalance which has come about as a result of Blair's decision to implement devolution in every part of the UK except England.
Last edited by Britannist; 17-02-2009 at 08:16 PM.
David Cameron, Teletext, Conservative, Lord Trimble, votes, English matters, Commons
The reported views of David Cameron in favour of having votes on English matters in the House of Commons limited to English constituency MPs (see the ITV Teletext link given in posting number one to this thread) appear to differ from those of Conservative Party member Lord Trimble who has apparently spoken out against such a concept (according to the Edinburgh Evening News):
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/engl...s-commons.html
Last edited by Britannist; 17-02-2009 at 08:26 PM.
Supporters of an EP within the UK do not say how much this will cost, where it will be located, and how many MPs will be required for it. To win the debate on this, surely supporters must have an idea?
Britannist says he supports an EP, I have suggested elsewhere this will require around a 1000 additional members, any idea? If you say that there should be an EP to match the one in Scotland, that will require 1290 members, with the loss of about 100 from Westminster. The public will simply not buy into more MPs.
I would also add that the solution that will be imposed on England by the Tories will be EVELs.
Last edited by Richard of England; 17-02-2009 at 08:35 PM.
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