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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist Lee View Post
    There are some people who claim that BNP members are running that risk already by being members of the BNP.

    I couldn't comment on the veracity of the claim, however.
    From what I have heard from the fund-raising campaigns the BNP should be in a very healthy financial state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueblood1920 View Post
    From what I have heard from the fund-raising campaigns the BNP should be in a very healthy financial state.
    They'll have to be if a BNP MEP [or two] does not materialise in June.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Hates Jazz View Post
    Currently the biggest English Democrats Group is 2,000, after 6 weeks.

    The Biggest "English" group is 110,000

    I believe the Biggest BNP Group is about 10,000, after months of being there

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    Blueblood - We are happy for you to be the British National Party, with White Nationalist leanings.

    As long as you appreciate that you can NEVER be an English Nationalist Party, with "British" in your name and with a Welsh Leader.

    As long as this is clear, then we can get on fine.

    BNP = British National Party the British Nationalist Party

    EngDem = English Democrats the English Nationalist Party
    That is 8,000 more than the English Democrats, I also know many more supporters who are scared to affiliate themselves with the BNP in a public way on facebook as they fear attacks from far-left thugs.

    As for your repeated attacks on our party not being able to be English Nationalists, it is a load of complete and utter rubbish. We believe it is the different indigenous cultures of the British Isles and the Regions and even Local cultures that make Britain. Therefore we as a party aim to promote all the indigenous cultures of these Islands fully and ensure that they thrive in a United Britain.

    Also as long as the English Democrats do not have a policy of withdrawing from the Union you are still a unionist party and by your own standards you are NOT English Nationalists and the only English Nationalists are the FEP.

    EDP members should just join the FEP they are much more honest about what they believe in and what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist Lee View Post
    They'll have to be if a BNP MEP [or two] does not materialise in June.
    We are confident of getting at least one, however we know it is not guranteed and we know it will be a long hard slog to get what we want. However we have something good planned for Liverpool in a couple of months which should get us a bit of publicity again.

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    In the meantime the bnp take over the EDP Section in the runup to the elections,wake up folks,the opening post was a dummy to allow the dirty bnp to enter and control,you really must be on your guard from now on you EDP Members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueblood1920 View Post
    We are confident of getting at least one, however we know it is not guranteed and we know it will be a long hard slog to get what we want. However we have something good planned for Liverpool in a couple of months which should get us a bit of publicity again.
    That looks like it might well rule out the the Free England Party standing in the North West then! Shame because it's often English folks who live near the Scottish border who are most aware of the inequalities between what the generous Scottish government gives its people and the way Labour screws the English.

    May I ask (hopefully ...) where are your party not standing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine View Post
    That looks like it might well rule out the the Free England Party standing in the North West then! Shame because it's often English folks who live near the Scottish border who are most aware of the inequalities between what the generous Scottish government gives its people and the way Labour screws the English.

    May I ask (hopefully ...) where are your party not standing?
    We are standing in every Region apart from NI as far as I am aware, although I believe we should stand there but people are scared of being attacked by IRA and UVF etc...

    Dont get me wrong I am and I am sure that the BNP is opposed to the inequalities between the different countries of the UK that is why we have a policy of an English Parliament to try and give us a level playing field. However splitting the union would not be good having 3 different countries on a small Island having different immigration policies, it would not be good for our Armed forces and I don't think it would be good for our Economy.

    But as my MSN name says 'British by birth, English by the grace of God'.

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    Answers to the English question!

    Quote Originally Posted by blueblood1920 View Post
    We are standing in every Region apart from NI as far as I am aware, although I believe we should stand there but people are scared of being attacked by IRA and UVF etc...

    Dont get me wrong I am and I am sure that the BNP is opposed to the inequalities between the different countries of the UK that is why we have a policy of an English Parliament to try and give us a level playing field. However splitting the union would not be good having 3 different countries on a small Island having different immigration policies, it would not be good for our Armed forces and I don't think it would be good for our Economy.

    But as my MSN name says 'British by birth, English by the grace of God'.
    I honestly believe that this policy (shared with the EDP) of providing England with its own Parliament, but within the British union simply will not work.

    I have come across so many writers on the constitution who make the same point. For example, say at the next general election, the tories win a majority in England, but Labour overall form the Union government, as their seats in the other home nations when combined with those for England give it a majority. With these facts and your constitutional settlement, the Union government of the day would not be able to get its domestic legislation approved by the English Parliament. It is simply unworkable.

    The only realistic options are seen as: revert to a unitary state (but the Scots will not give up their Parliament); devolution to English Assemblies (the English do not want this for sure) or our independence. And no one is seriously arguing of course for the status quo.

    Any other option is half-baked and any reputable commentator will know and say it is.

    So which is it to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueblood1920 View Post
    That is 8,000 more than the English Democrats, I also know many more supporters who are scared to affiliate themselves with the BNP in a public way on facebook as they fear attacks from far-left thugs.

    As for your repeated attacks on our party not being able to be English Nationalists, it is a load of complete and utter rubbish. We believe it is the different indigenous cultures of the British Isles and the Regions and even Local cultures that make Britain. Therefore we as a party aim to promote all the indigenous cultures of these Islands fully and ensure that they thrive in a United Britain.

    Also as long as the English Democrats do not have a policy of withdrawing from the Union you are still a unionist party and by your own standards you are NOT English Nationalists and the only English Nationalists are the FEP.

    EDP members should just join the FEP they are much more honest about what they believe in and what they want.
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    I am sorry I have to repeat myself here, but you don't seem to be getting it.

    BNP = British National Party = the British Nationalist Party

    EngDem = English Democrats = the Engilsh Nationalist Party

    If you want to be an English Nationalist, you need to get rid of the word BRITISH, and your Welsh Leader
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    Quote Originally Posted by david H View Post
    Griffan Welsh! Grow up little boy. If this is the level of maturity of the leaders of your party I will use any of literature that comes through my door for toiletry purposes. If you can not do better than this stop embarassing us with your childishness.
    Mate, we intend to kick the BNP where it hurts, as hard as possible, over and over again, you don't like it, that's why you post a ridiculous counter as above !

    Your leader is Welsh - you can deny it but that's our point of view - that's what will be going out on 35 Million leaflets in May 2009.

    You are NOT English Nationalists, you are British Nationalists

    [The title of your party gives this away]

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    You are too used to being attacked on the fact that you are really a White Nationalist Party whilst you hide behide a disguise that you are a patriotic Natioanalist party, well this time you are going to be attacked, over and over again on the some different issues, ones that will really hurt your support, and make patriotic people really think if they are British or English.

    You'd better come up with something better then you have posted above, if you wish to counter it.

    We've got six months of this so hopefuly you can put your heads together to come up with a counter !
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