Thread: Robin Tilbrook - National Party Chairman - English Democrats on Face Book

I can not see by contemporary usuage of the term "racist" that the poster for the Mayoral elections campaign was anything else. It is certainly a fit topic for debate. My personal view is that Robin Tillbrook's argument here reproduced for fairness makes no sense.

East London Advertise 2 May 2008
"England's cause is far bigger and more important than any one individual," Mr Tilbrook adds. "The campaign for English Democracy goes on."
The party denies any connection with 'England First' or the BNP.
"There are no links with the BNP at all," Mr Tilbrook told the Advertiser.
"We even stood against them in the elections and have non-English ethnic candidates.
"We're not about race, but campaign on English identity.
"Home is where the heart is. Colour is not relevant.
"National identity is the emotional glue that holds society together."
The party is campaigning for 'a stronger 'England' in the face of preference it says the Government gives to Scotland and Wales with their own 'national identities.'

are the English Democrats racist? man about the house

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Please read the whole thread and keep up my friend

Well Richard, although I agree with what you've posted, one would hardly discern exactly what you were defending Tony Linsell against, nor have you actually taken the charges head on!

The charges were:

Originally Posted by Johnny Hates Jazz

Tony Linsell - a founder member of the English Democrats - never personally had the guts to stand for Election.

There are plenty around, willing to tell those who "do" what to "do".

Not so keen themselves.

but it should be noted that they were directed at a particular individual who has tended [tends?] to use Mr Linsell as some kind of weapon, and who himself has not stood as a candidate in order to promote HIS beliefs.

Your response avoided any mention of JHJ's riposte:

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

I would like to defend Tony Linsell against some of the comments made here. I have met him a couple of times and read several of his books. I have to say, he is an extremely articulate and intelligent man who has done so much for the English cause. Standing for election is not for everyone, and some people are uncomfortable with it, but do other things just as valuable.

Without Tony's efforts and his good work, the cause would be a lot poorer.

I have not had the honour of meeting the gentleman, but I take this opportunity to pay tribute to Tony's work which has qualities of intelligent perception about the English condition, the ability to communicate the results of that perception and, not least, the courage to do so and to do so in a pioneering way. His writings have helped to inform many English people who were not conscious of being English until Mr Linsell put such 'subversive' thoughts into their minds! In doing this, he has laid himself open to accusations of racism, however absurd that may now seem to many of us, but such is the sinister nature of those bent on eradicating Englishness and imposing Britishness in its stead whilst leaving anything largely non-English intact - if not enhanced! He also laid himself open to being mis-used, if not actually mis-represented, by those who are bent on racism.

My answer to JHJ would have been to ask whether Tony Linsell has made a contribution to the English Cause which far exceeds any further value to be accrued from him, personally, standing as a candidate for election? I think we all know the answer to that!

I would also point out that JHJ fell into the trap of attacking Tony, when his true target cannot defend himself with anything remotely approaching a similar claim about a huge contribution made in other ways!

In fact, do we know the true identity of JHJ's target or the significant contribution [if any] he has made? I think we all know the answer to that!

In the meantime, JHJ's missed target continues to lurk associating 'racism' and 'racist' with the English Democrats as much as he can in his postings . . . readers will not need to look afar for evidence of this!

Surely, it is only a matter of time and fortune before the FEP also becomes the subject of such insinuations? After all, he's not one of your members either . . . or is he?


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Originally Posted by stathan

I realise that the EDs are not the brightest spanners in the toolbox, but surely moving to Wales to live does not make you Welsh.

I'm afraid that the odious fat Nick is indeed one of your own, as English as chicken tikka masala or chargeable prescriptions.

Stop foisting him on other nationalities.

He's all yours!

I have to agree that Mr G is English, and - like some others in this section of the forum - still supports the British Union! The British cause is welcome to him!