I can not see by contemporary usuage of the term "racist" that the poster for the Mayoral elections campaign was anything else. It is certainly a fit topic for debate. My personal view is that Robin Tillbrook's argument here reproduced for fairness makes no sense.
East London Advertise 2 May 2008
"England's cause is far bigger and more important than any one individual," Mr Tilbrook adds. "The campaign for English Democracy goes on."
The party denies any connection with 'England First' or the BNP.
"There are no links with the BNP at all," Mr Tilbrook told the Advertiser.
"We even stood against them in the elections and have non-English ethnic candidates.
"We're not about race, but campaign on English identity.
"Home is where the heart is. Colour is not relevant.
"National identity is the emotional glue that holds society together."
The party is campaigning for 'a stronger 'England' in the face of preference it says the Government gives to Scotland and Wales with their own 'national identities.'
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Well Richard, although I agree with what you've posted, one would hardly discern exactly what you were defending Tony Linsell against, nor have you actually taken the charges head on!
The charges were: but it should be noted that they were directed at a particular individual who has tended [tends?] to use Mr Linsell as some kind of weapon, and who himself has not stood as a candidate in order to promote HIS beliefs.
Your response avoided any mention of JHJ's riposte:
I have not had the honour of meeting the gentleman, but I take this opportunity to pay tribute to Tony's work which has qualities of intelligent perception about the English condition, the ability to communicate the results of that perception and, not least, the courage to do so and to do so in a pioneering way. His writings have helped to inform many English people who were not conscious of being English until Mr Linsell put such 'subversive' thoughts into their minds! In doing this, he has laid himself open to accusations of racism, however absurd that may now seem to many of us, but such is the sinister nature of those bent on eradicating Englishness and imposing Britishness in its stead whilst leaving anything largely non-English intact - if not enhanced! He also laid himself open to being mis-used, if not actually mis-represented, by those who are bent on racism.
My answer to JHJ would have been to ask whether Tony Linsell has made a contribution to the English Cause which far exceeds any further value to be accrued from him, personally, standing as a candidate for election? I think we all know the answer to that!
I would also point out that JHJ fell into the trap of attacking Tony, when his true target cannot defend himself with anything remotely approaching a similar claim about a huge contribution made in other ways!
In fact, do we know the true identity of JHJ's target or the significant contribution [if any] he has made? I think we all know the answer to that!
In the meantime, JHJ's missed target continues to lurk associating 'racism' and 'racist' with the English Democrats as much as he can in his postings . . . readers will not need to look afar for evidence of this!
Surely, it is only a matter of time and fortune before the FEP also becomes the subject of such insinuations? After all, he's not one of your members either . . . or is he?
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A Nick Griffin fanpage has now been created on Facebook and within a couple of days he has over 150 followers.
Give it a few more days and he'll eclipse whoever the ED leader is![]()
Obviously BNP is in such dire straits that, not only have its proponents flattered English Democrats by adopting another of their initiatives, but have invaded the English Democrats section to boast about their lack of originality! Well done!
As to the effectiveness of the tactic, we shall all see in due course!
If the BNP really defended its members, it would have taken on the issue of policemen being barred from membership as a pre-condition of service long ago, and would certainly be doing so now. Legislation is in place to enable them to do it. The fact that it hasn't, says much about the true nature of the BNP!
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157 supporters now and rising, Soon to be over 500!
I realise that the EDs are not the brightest spanners in the toolbox, but surely moving to Wales to live does not make you Welsh.
I'm afraid that the odious fat Nick is indeed one of your own, as English as chicken tikka masala or chargeable prescriptions.
Stop foisting him on other nationalities.
He's all yours!
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