The English did not vote on Scots devolution. They must do so on breaking up the Unio

cassie · 15-06-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Of course in a UK-wide referendum on (say) the status of Scotland I would expect the majority opinion in Scotland to carry more weight in the British Parliament which, ultimately, has the power to take any necessary action. Let me put in this way: in a referendum about Scotland where the turnouts were regarded as decisive (say no less than 51%) and a majority in Scotland voted to leave the UK, whilst majorities in England and Wales voted against, I would expect the British Parliament to heed the result in Scotland.

Conversely, if the majority in Scotland opposed leaving the UK, but majorities in England and Wales voted in favour of Scotland leaving, again I would expect the British Parliament to heed the result in Scotland

How is that taken out of context? It looks perfectly clear to me.

Okay. You say something, but you don't mean it. Then the reader has then to try and re-interpret it to what you really meant.

You really are losing all credibility.

I accept that YOU do not understand.

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Northumbrian · 15-06-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

I accept that YOU do not understand.

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Nobody can understand you. If they could understand you I would be seriously concerned for their sanity.

cassie · 15-06-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Nobody can understand you. If they could understand you I would be seriously concerned for their sanity.

Long ago I was told that a definition of a Geordie is: "A Scotsman with his brains bashed oot!"

You seem determined to prove the veracity of that view!

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Northumbrian · 15-06-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Long ago I was told that a definition of a Geordie is: "A Scotsman with his brains bashed oot!"

You seem determined to prove the veracity of that view!

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I remember some time ago I proposed that you were either a genious or insane.

Should I book you an appointment with a shrink?

a swansong 4 europe · 19-06-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shagpile

Just like the English having a say on Scottish independence. Not relevant.

Are you the 'thread police' now then?

And if, like me you have Scottish heritage, why should that deny me from a say in the future of an ancestral birthplace? How many asians do the Scot Nats recruit to their cause, yeah, really relevevent to a Scottish future, that.

BonnieDundee · 23-06-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by a swansong 4 europe

And if, like me you have Scottish heritage, why should that deny me from a say in the future of an ancestral birthplace? How many asians do the Scot Nats recruit to their cause, yeah, really relevevent to a Scottish future, that.

If you haven't any contact with it for many generations then of course you have no say because it no longer really concerns you.

Would you allow anyone with the slightest English blood, say 100 years ago, to emigrate there from anywhere in the world?

cassie · 23-06-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by a swansong 4 europe

And if, like me you have Scottish heritage, why should that deny me from a say in the future of an ancestral birthplace? How many asians do the Scot Nats recruit to their cause, yeah, really relevant to a Scottish future, that.

I take your point which supports my wider principle: if you are a British citizen living anywhere in the UK, you should be able to participate in any referenda on questions involving significant changes to the UK.

In the past, Scots and other narrow minded minorities have been very precious about their own spheres of interest and, in order to get their own way, have excluded all other UK citizens from such consultative processes, especially the 85% living in England. The inconsistency of their position has been underlined by two factors in particular: (1) Such individuals have never sought to afford similar rights to the people of England; and (2) they insist on being able to express their exclusive opinions on the English . . . here for example!

It is rather heartening to see increasing numbers of English citizens, having had the scales removed from their eyes which had been placed there by malign Scottish propaganda, are expressing support for a UK-wide, democratic approach to these matters! Only last Saturday (21st June) in the phone-in part of 'Any Questions?' a caller expressed just such an opinion which, only a few months ago, would not have been heard!

The English are acoming!

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