cassie

To be realistic, this kind of situation occurs in any political party - I mean a decision being made which is not unanimous and is opposed, but which turns out to be unsuccessful. So how long does one keeping batting on about it in this case?

It's all very well being the informed observer, especially when armed with 20:20 hindsight but, at some stage, one has to become involved or merely be seen as some kind of impractical perfectionist whose words, however worthy and sage, will tend to become more and more discounted.


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Toque

It's not a case of hindsight, I was unimpressed by O'Connor, his website and the posters from the beginning. I was emailed a press release by an excited Steve Uncles presumably in the hope that I would advertise O'Connor's campaign. I did comment on it, but negatively Little Man in a Toque Matt O’Connor for Mayor

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cassie

You've modified what I wrote to suit your line. I actually wrote: ". . . being the informed observer, especially when armed with 20:20 hindsight . . ."

OK, ten out of ten for foresight [you were not the only one with reservations], but where are you driving now?

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Harbinger

Matt O'Connor was an awful choice with foresight hindsight or whatever kind of sight you want.

Independent Working Class

[quote=Harbinger;499055]Matt O'Connor was an awful choice with foresight hindsight or whatever kind of sight you want.[/QUOTE

Any normal political party would learn its lessons from this - 'gimmick candidates' be it your Matt O'Connor for the ED, or Robert Kilroy Silk and Rustie Lee for UKIP are VERY BAD IDEAS.

But one wonders if parties like the English Democrats have the collective intelligence to learn. It will be far easier for them to blame everything on some Scottish conspiracy.

Lets wait and see if some liberal blowhard 'shock jock' type appears on the English Democrats candidate lists.

cassie

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When is your political party going to learn its lessons from this - whatever 'this' is?

Of course, this nugget presupposes that your party is 'normal'!



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rjt

[quote=Independent Working Class;499079]Yse I agree with what you say about gimmick candidates they very rarely have anything other than a short term effect and prove more damaging in the long run.

Smaller partys would do better to promote cohrent agendas for government and taking sensible steps to ensure there candidates are 'clean'.

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