If 'English' Parties Start To Do Well

ANGLO-STAFFS · 01-05-2008, 11:49 AM

If English Nationalist Parties, of any view, start to pick up votes and/or seats at whatever level, will we start to see the Big parties adding English to their name?
We see this with Welsh Labour or Scottish Lib Dems.
Will English Conservatives or even English Greens be on the menu?

cassie · 01-05-2008, 12:14 PM

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There have been 'Scottish' and 'Wales' components of the TUC, the Labour and Conservative parties for decades! England as such has NEVER been separately represented.

It is the devolution introduced in 1997 without any English involvement which has made those in England increasingly conscious of this anomaly, this difference in treatment. Even so, had this Scottish-flavoured British Government ensured that people in England would be treated no less favourably, the constitutional differences would have been as unimportant as they have been for decades in non-government bodies.

The failure of the Conservative Party and UKIP to comprehend the true nature of what has happened needs proper explanation. Is it due to incomprehension and incompetence, or something more sinister?

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Danny · 01-05-2008, 12:24 PM

Excellent post cassie much better than your very poor last one.The English question has to be answered. The problem at the moment is there is no leadership.English nationalists must re think long and hard the best way forward.Both the EDP and FEP at the moment are just very small pressure groups(small fry) until one of the three main parties labour lib dem or the tories adopt a real and meaninful policy which will address the current in balance.This will just drag on and on its time it was sorted and addressed by the three main parties instead of burying there heads in the sand and thinking it will all just go away.Well it wont.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 01-05-2008, 09:21 PM

Maybe you could put yourself forward as a Leader Danny

You have lots of opinions, and seem big headed enough !

Go for it !

01-05-2008, 11:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
ANGLO-STAFFS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 608	If 'English' Parties Start To Do Well If English Nationalist Parties, of any view, start to pick up votes and/or seats at whatever level, will we start to see the Big parties adding English to their name? We see this with Welsh Labour or Scottish Lib Dems. Will English Conservatives or even English Greens be on the menu?

01-05-2008, 12:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Danny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 717	Excellent post cassie much better than your very poor last one.The English question has to be answered. The problem at the moment is there is no leadership.English nationalists must re think long and hard the best way forward.Both the EDP and FEP at the moment are just very small pressure groups(small fry) until one of the three main parties labour lib dem or the tories adopt a real and meaninful policy which will address the current in balance.This will just drag on and on its time it was sorted and addressed by the three main parties instead of burying there heads in the sand and thinking it will all just go away.Well it wont. Last edited by Danny; 01-05-2008 at 12:25 PM. Reason: correction

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Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,944	Maybe you could put yourself forward as a Leader Danny You have lots of opinions, and seem big headed enough ! Go for it ! __________________ English or British or European ? *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

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01-05-2008, 12:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,638	____________________________________ There have been 'Scottish' and 'Wales' components of the TUC, the Labour and Conservative parties for decades! England as such has NEVER been separately represented. It is the devolution introduced in 1997 without any English involvement which has made those in England increasingly conscious of this anomaly, this difference in treatment. Even so, had this Scottish-flavoured British Government ensured that people in England would be treated no less favourably, the constitutional differences would have been as unimportant as they have been for decades in non-government bodies. The failure of the Conservative Party and UKIP to comprehend the true nature of what has happened needs proper explanation. Is it due to incomprehension and incompetence, or something more sinister? ______________________________________