Westcountryman

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't believe Cornwall enjoys the same status as Scotland or Wales.

I can agree with more autonomy, but I think it should be Cornwall County Council (or 'One Cornwall' as they're now calling it) which gets it, not a new assembly. I believe that all Counties in England should get the same devolved powers, not exclusively Cornwall.

Fair enough.

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BonnieDundee

Well their current statuses are not based so much on their English constitutional status but on identity and recent changes. I think Cornwall has alot more seperateness than the average English county but not as much as Wales. I think it should be seperate like Wales however but union kept.



I believe all counties should get the powers too. But what reason do you have for not letting Cornwall be like Wales, I can only imagine English nationalism.

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Ea of Dune

Actually it was incredible inacurate.

1.) The French princess was a child at the time
2.) Wallace was a Norman-Scot noble with family from Norman gentry in England
3.) He wouldn't have worn wode nor the dress gibson runs around in
4.) York was never invaded by the Scottish army
5.) It's doubtful that the lowlanders and the highlanders even spoke the same language let alone the nobility.
6.) That whole nonsense with the Irish running across the field, stopping and turning round on the Scots side is utter ********.
7.) Edward was given some toff Brit accent, probably on purpose to live up to sterotypes....

That's just a miniscule amount of the rubbish the film included. Gibson is known for his anti-English movies (as well as his anti-Sematism it would seem) I find it sad that people don't know enough of their own history to be taken in by such ****.

Ea of dune

Westcountryman

Because I believe it would be a stepping stone towards 'independence' and would only encourage further anti-English action in the County.

I do not think an Assembly is required for Cornwall to identify or enjoy its unique culture and heritage.

I firmly believe Cornwall is part of England.

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cassie

I have just pointed out that Cornwall was some two thousand years ago part of a much larger territory called Dumnonia and inhabited by the Dumnonii. [The adjoining territory - parts of Dorset, Wiltshire & Hampshire - were inhabited by the Durotriges.] Consequently, the question arises as to what makes the 'Cornish' different from the Dumnonii? You've ducked this question with the unsubstantiated claim that Cornish folk [undefined] 'have a unique heritage'!

Also relevant is how these undefined Cornish people of today have established that their individual bloodlines can be traced back to that part of Dumnonia now known as Cornwall?

You might find it useful to clarify in your mind the differences between 'race', 'ethnicity' and 'nationality'. As a Devonian born in Isca Dumnoniorum, I do not regard the indigenous population of Cornwall generally as being of a different race. Neither do I regard them as having a different ethnicity when account is taken of the centuries Cornwall has been part of England. Finally, for very similar reasons, I do not regard them as having another nationality.

I conclude from your response that you are unable to refute the information I have adduced. [Incidentally, I use the word 'refute' in its proper sense of 'disprove' NOT 'deny'.]



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Englishman

I find it strange that a party claiming to have the English interest at heart, say that any one and every one can be English, Yet I can't obviously say that I am Afro-Carebean and recieve Afro Carebean benifits from their charities etc can I? its all PC nonsense watering down the English identity, which no other nation does to its identity, other than the Yanks, and look at that hell hole!!!
and I find it strange that the EDP stand against another nationalist party (BNP Bedworth) and stop them from getting power, whilst assisting New Labour in retaining power!!!???? knowing full well that they have denied many English patriots an area of BNP control, which is obviously what the English wanted there as they were voting that way.

I find it strange that the EDP deem the BNP to be a greater threat than the main parties?
I find it strange that the EDP seem to turn on their own rather than face the enemy?
The EDP are part of the PC system, part of the problem, they have no respect for the indigenous English, and choose to ignore them just as the anti-English system does, in-fact they hate the only party standing up for the indigenous English!???
I find it strange that a party proffessing to be an English nationalist party ignored the immigration Polls recently shown on the Channel 4 Immigration 'Inconveniant truth' documentary? they ignored Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of blood' speach anniversary?

Everything that is connected to English nationalism, is ignored and avoided by the EDP?

Do ya know what, Your not nationalists, you simply want an English parliament, but nothing to do with real nationalism, as this may bring on racist acusations, which you obviously cannot handle due to your PC over accomodating views.

I don't want to battle with my own, but when my own ignore my identity and start to help water it down and ignore the wishes and needs of the English,
and will not work together with other nationalist parties in desperate times to ensure some form of nationalist power for the English, then I will battle with them, untill they wake up and come out of the PC sheep walk.

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The spirit of Wat Tyler !

Ea of Dune

Hahaha how I laugh. The BNP call the EDP Liberals and PC and the left call them fascist.

Yes the BNP true saviours of the people of England.... not!

Ea of dune

cassie

Who are you to say who should or should not field candidates in competition with the BNP and other parties? Do you find democracy strange?

What is your evidence for concluding (1) that the EDP diverted votes from the BNP; and (2) that the BNP did not divert votes from the EDP?


Since you're such a 'know-all', would you care to give us your definitions of 'race', 'ethnicity' and 'nationality'?




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BonnieDundee

Firstly that is actually not very accurate secondly England was part of the Roman empire 2000 years ago, therefore it doesn't have a unique heritage. You have to actually look at what makes up their heritage.

We are not talking about race but heritage. Most British people from north Scotland to East Anglia are genetically the same ethnicity, it doesn't matter.


I conclude you have a very snmall grasp of this subject or anything meant for those over 12 years old.

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BonnieDundee

I don't want independence but I still can't help conclude that your opposition to autonomy is part of sentimental, English nationalism, I can't see any other real reason for it. Personally I want the UK regionalised with a very flimsy central gov't and the regions to have more autonomy than Wales or Scotland do now.

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.