BonnieDundee

The nationalist feeling is popular and clearly not a minority it is just not intense. Nationalism doesn't have to be anti-English and this is the problem you people have, your feelings come from some emotional appeal to a glorious England and you seem to take autonomy for Cornwall as a threat to that.

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Westcountryman

No, more the fact that you are half-Scottish. 'Proper' Cornish requires Cornish ancestors on both sides of your family.

You can't be serious.

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BonnieDundee

In the same way as we are Anglophobic? If you are going to make stupid comments, make sure you haven't made the same one first.

At least in my case it is genuine that you people don't want Cornwall to have autonomy because you want a united England and to remove Cornish seperatist feelings.

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BonnieDundee

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Where does that leave you?


Totally. You are an immigrant. You are exactly the same as an Indian immigrant to the UK when we are talking about Cornish autonomy.

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Westcountryman

Are most people bothered about being part of England? No, not in my experience.

It invariably is. I wonder how many people - esp. Scots and Welsh - jump on the autonomy for Cornwall bandwagon just to 'get back' at England.

Sure, I believe in England, but more importantly than that I consider myself a Westcountryman, and I consider Cornwall to be part of the Westcounty.

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Westcountryman

I've never claimed to be Cornish. I'm a Westcountryman, I consider Cornwall to be part of the Westcountry.

In that case as far as I'm concerned you're just another 'Celtic' Scot 'immigrant' to England jumping on the Cornish bandwagon in order to try and destabilise England.

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BonnieDundee

Indeed, the feelings are not intense but they are there. Most people ideally want autonomy./


Not invariably. And it is bound to cause some tension however but that is natural when it is Westminister denying further autonomy.

Well I suppose that is better at least. Most of this anti-autonomy from the English is due to vague nationalism which glories in as large and powerful England as possible.

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BonnieDundee

Right...most Cornish consider themselves Cornish.


I'm Cornish in decent, you're talking ****. If I had an American, British or any other nationality parent I'd be considered to be part that nationality, it is the same here. We are talking whether Cornwall is seperate and you are starting from the very presumption it is not.

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Westcountryman

There's an ongoing debate as to whether Cornwall is constitutionally separate. I do not believe it is. It's clear that we're on opposing sides of the fence in this argument.

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BonnieDundee

There is no debate, it is simply whether the constitution applies because it has long been ignored ignored. The debate equals do the old constitutional institutions still hold or does house of commons have absolute power.

But that is not what I meant. You clearly don't think Cornwall has a seperate identity to the rest of England or the Westcountry. That is what I meant. We are trying to decide whether it does and you start your arguments by presuming it doesn't despite the overwhelming evidence such as what people consider themselves.

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Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.