Worrying - Page 3

cassie · 01-05-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

When will certain people realise Cornwall is not a "Country" It is an English speaking county of England. A noisy minority are trying to revive a language last spoken over 200 years ago,which means no living person as ever heard it spoken. if todays Cornish speakers could be transported 200 years back in time,I'd guarantee nobody would understand their speech.

As someone born in another part of the territory known in Roman times as Dumnonia, I am at a loss to understand why a small number of people located in the small rump now known as Cornwall can validly claim to be anything special. How do these humpy Cornish folk know as individuals that they actually are of the Dumnonii people?

It comes as no surprise to me that yet another non-English person is seeking to stir the pot of controversy here in England. The so called Cornish Independence movement is yet another German inspired initiative designed via the EU to divide England. Here's a link: Federal Union of European Nationalities FUEN PRESIDIUM

NB Who purports to represent GB (yes, GB!) from Ivy Cottage, Cornwall with a Plymouth, ENGLAND, Post Code! [Wot no representation for North Britain?]

Here's another link to remove any doubts about the connection: FUEN, The European Parliament and Living Diversity :: The Rest of the World :: Cornwall 24

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ENGLISH JEW · 01-05-2008, 08:08 PM

So here's a question for you, Fred, why have senior NC English Democrats (Steve Uncles, Ed Abrams in particular) turned such venom on the Free England Party?

Snake - I haven't attacked Free England in fact I've given my support as I actually support the policy of Indpendence

What I have attacked is YOU because you are a SNAKE, you threw your toys out the pram because you didn't get your own way. You are using the good people of FEP for your own benefit as you have stated more than once and in public that you didn't support a policy of independence. I have warned my mates within FEP about you and told them not to trust you as you will stab them like you stabed the Eng Dems.

How you can call yourself a English Nationalist is beyond a joke.

BonnieDundee · 02-05-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kernow

When will certain people realise Cornwall is not a "Country" It is an English speaking county of England. A noisy minority are trying to revive a language last spoken over 200 years ago,which means no living person as ever heard it spoken. if todays Cornish speakers could be transported 200 years back in time,I'd guarrentee nobody would understand their speach.

And you speak for us how? Cornish seperatist feelings are quite popular in Cornwall if not intense, it has a unique heritage and it actually is not constitutionally a county but a seperate duchy.

I can't help thinking you have some emotional attachment to a glorious England or UK which you link to it being as big as possible.

BonnieDundee · 02-05-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie

As someone born in another part of the territory known in Roman times as Dumnonia, I am at a loss to understand why a small number of people located in the small rump now known as Cornwall can validly claim to be anything special. How do these humpy Cornish folk know as individuals that they actually are of the Dumnonii people?

Because they have a unique heritage and which to be something special.Most Cornish consider themselves Cornish over English. Why not anyway? Gov't closer to the people is always better, the only nay-sayers seem to be people with a complex about England's glory and wishing it to be as large and strong as possible.

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It comes as no surprise to me that yet another non-English person is seeking to stir the pot of controversy here in England. The so called Cornish Independence movement is yet another German inspired initiative designed via the EU to divide England. Here's a link: Federal Union of European Nationalities FUEN PRESIDIUM

NB Who purports to represent GB (yes, GB!) from Ivy Cottage, Cornwall with a Plymouth, ENGLAND, Post Code! [Wot no representation for North Britain?]

Here's another link to remove any doubts about the connection: FUEN, The European Parliament and Living Diversity :: The Rest of the World :: Cornwall 24

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That is all just ******** as they say.

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 02-05-2008, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

And you speak for us how?

And you speak for Cornwall how? You don't even live there.

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Cornish seperatist feelings are quite popular in Cornwall if not intense, it has a unique heritage and it actually is not constitutionally a county but a seperate duchy.

That's up for debate. Some believe being a Duchy makes Cornwall constitutionally different, some don't.

BonnieDundee · 02-05-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

And you speak for Cornwall how? You don't even live there.

I'm Cornish. And I do pretty much live there. I have a house there, I lived there until 9 months aog and will in a few months time.

So that was a pretty lame attack on your part I'm afraid although not original, the fact I temporarily, for personal reasons, have been forced to reside in Australia seems to be a weird sources of attacks on me here. I was even called Australian, I think the Australian gov't would disagree however.

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That's up for debate. Some believe being a Duchy makes Cornwall constitutionally different, some don't.

The debate is simply that the Westminister parliament has long overrideen such constitutionality in an orgy of legislative absolutism. It went the way of the royal prerogative. The constitution and its seperateness are still there, as English law does not lapse when not used, but it is ignored because Westminister has for centuries decided it had more absolute power than any British monarchever dared to assert.

Ea of Dune · 02-05-2008, 02:04 AM

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I'm Cornish. And I do pretty much live there. I have a house there, I lived there until 9 months aog and will in a few months time. So that was a pretty lame attack on your part I'm afraid.

But I thought you where Scottish a minute ago? So is your Cornish cottage just a holiday home then?

Ea of dune

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 02-05-2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

I'm far more Cornish than you.

So? Why does that matter? I don't claim to have any more right to decide the future of Somerset than others who live there.

If we're going to play these games then England conquered Cornwall centuries ago and as such has the right to govern it.

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

The debate is simply that the Westminister parliament has long overrideen such constitutionality in an orgy of legislative absolutism. It went the way of the royal prerogative.

Parliament has every right to alter the Constitution. Ever heard of Parliamentary Sovereignty?

BonnieDundee · 02-05-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

So? Why does that matter? I don't claim to have any more right to decide the future of Somerset than others who live there.

If we're going to play these games then England conquered Cornwall centuries ago and as such has the right to govern it.

What games? You challenged my Cornishness. And I'm talking from my knowledge of Cornwall and the Cornish people and the polls back me up showing most consider themselves Cornish over English.

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Parliament has every right to alter the Constitution. Ever heard of Parliamentary Sovereignty?

Firstly it hasn't actually removed the rights of the Duchy, just ignored them. Secondly that is what is debateable and what makes the British constitution at this time so utterly pathetic and useless. It means the legislature can and does rule, usually in the interest of the elites, in any way it sees fit. Louis XIV would of proud of that kind of absolutism.

BonnieDundee · 02-05-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune

But I thought you where Scottish a minute ago? So is your Cornish cottage just a holiday home then?

Ea of dune

I'm both, most of my mother's family is Cornish as far back as it is possible to discover. I grew up first in the highlands and then we moved to Cornwall and I have moved around alot but have spent alot of years in Cornwall.

01-05-2008, 08:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
ENGLISH JEW Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England's Jewel, Chester Posts: 47	So here's a question for you, Fred, why have senior NC English Democrats (Steve Uncles, Ed Abrams in particular) turned such venom on the Free England Party? Snake - I haven't attacked Free England in fact I've given my support as I actually support the policy of Indpendence What I have attacked is YOU because you are a SNAKE, you threw your toys out the pram because you didn't get your own way. You are using the good people of FEP for your own benefit as you have stated more than once and in public that you didn't support a policy of independence. I have warned my mates within FEP about you and told them not to trust you as you will stab them like you stabed the Eng Dems. How you can call yourself a English Nationalist is beyond a joke. __________________ Shalom 2nd Gerneration English & Proud This is more than just Politics Its PERSONAL www.justiceforengland.com

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