Now English Dems. have no Mayor candidate, will they back Free England candidate?

Britannist · 27-04-2008, 01:17 AM

Now that the English Democrat Party (EDP) has no candidate of its own in this week's London Mayoral Election most would expect them to make one of two announcements:

1. That its members/supporters/voters back the UKIP London Mayoral candidate (Mr. Gerard Batten MEP) but vote for the EDP London Assembly candidates. In return UKIP could agree (at least in some areas) not to contest wards/seats where EDP candidates are campaigning (after this week's London/local elections are over).

2. That its members/supporters/voters back Mr. Andrew Constantine of the Free England Party (FEP) in this week's London Mayoral Election. In return the FEP might announce that its members/supporters/voters back EDP candidates in those London Assembly constituencies it is not contesting.

The EDP might also suggest that voters back one of the two Mayoral candidates mentioned above (Mr. Batten or Mr. Constantine) in the first round of voting and Conservative MP Boris Johnson in the second round of voting.

The EDP could also - now its own candidate has quit the EDP Mayoral Election campaign - advise its members/supporters/voters to back Mr. Constantine (of the Free England Party) in the first round of voting in this week's London Mayoral Election and Mr. Gerard Batten MEP (UKIP) in second preference voting (or the other way around).

The EDP, FEP and UKIP should work together as and where they can to avoid splitting the pro-England and anti-EU vote at election time. Efforts should be made to organise so that only one of the above-named parties contests a ward/constituency election.

Perhaps Kentishman, who posts here and who is a member of the English Democrat Party (and who is his party's 2008 London Assembly Election candidate for Bexley-Bromley), will tell us when the EDP have made a decision of what to recommend that its members/supporters/voters do now that the EDP 2008 London Mayoral Election candidate says he has resigned.

London Mayoral Election 2008 candidates: Richard Barnbrook - British National Party, Gerard Batten - UK Independence Party, Siân Berry - Green Party, Alan Craig - Christian Peoples Alliance and Christian Party , Lindsey German - Left List, Boris Johnson - Conservative Party, Ken Livingstone - The Labour Party, Winston McKenzie - Independent, Matt O'Connor - English Democrats, Brian Paddick - Liberal Democrats.

Full details of the London Mayoral and Assembly candidates for the 1.5.2008 London Elections at:

London Elects - The candidates

and in posting number three at:

UKIP Gerard Batten London mayor Election Broadcast

Andrew Constantine · 27-04-2008, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britannist

Now that the English Democrat Party (EDP) has no candidate of its own in this week's London Mayoral Election most would expect them to make one of two announcements:

1. That its members/supporters/voters back the UKIP London Mayoral candidate (Mr. Gerard Batten MEP) but vote for the EDP London Assembly candidates. In return UKIP could agree (at least in some areas) not to contest wards/seats where EDP candidates are campaigning (after this week's London/local elections are over).

2. That its members/supporters/voters back Mr. Andrew Constantine of the Free England Party (FEP) in this week's London Mayoral Election. In return the FEP might announce that its members/supporters/voters back EDP candidates in those London Assembly constituencies it is not contesting.

The EDP might also suggest that voters back one of the two Mayoral candidates mentioned above (Mr. Batten or Mr. Constantine) in the first round of voting and Conservative MP Boris Johnson in the second round of voting.

The EDP could also - now its own candidate has quit the EDP Mayoral Election campaign - advise its members/supporters/voters to back Mr. Constantine (of the Free England Party) in the first round of voting in this week's London Mayoral Election and Mr. Gerard Batten MEP (UKIP) in second preference voting (or the other way around).

The EDP, FEP and UKIP should work together as and where they can to avoid splitting the pro-England and anti-EU vote at election time. Efforts should be made to organise so that only one of the above-named parties contests a ward/constituency election.

Perhaps Kentishman, who posts here and who is a member of the English Democrat Party (and who is his party's 2008 London Assembly Election candidate for Bexley-Bromley), will tell us when the EDP have made a decision of what to recommend that its members/supporters/voters do now that the EDP 2008 London Mayoral Election candidate says he has resigned.

London Mayoral Election 2008 candidates: Richard Barnbrook - British National Party, Gerard Batten - UK Independence Party, Siân Berry - Green Party, Alan Craig - Christian Peoples Alliance and Christian Party , Lindsey German - Left List, Boris Johnson - Conservative Party, Ken Livingstone - The Labour Party, Winston McKenzie - Independent, Matt O'Connor - English Democrats, Brian Paddick - Liberal Democrats.

Full details of the London Mayoral and Assembly candidates for the 1.5.2008 London Elections at:

London Elects - The candidates

and in posting number three at:

UKIP Gerard Batten London mayor Election Broadcast

God's truth. I am not standing for the mayoral office. I am quite busy enough not leafletting my huge South West constituency while standing for the London Assemby.

But, Britannist, I am pleased that you think I am a credible candidate for the mayoral office. My sights are, however, set much lower and realistically. And with good justification. I breathed a sigh of relief to see that the OMRL Party were not standing in the South West!

All the best

Andrew

cassie · 27-04-2008, 09:38 AM

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I'm surprised at you Britannist, you seem to have caught some kind of election fever!

What is your objective evidence for asserting what 'most[??] would expect'?

These aren't American Primaries, you know and neither the EDP (nor any other party) is under any obligation whatsoever to make the announcements you say are 'expected'.

Wisdom would dictate that they make no such announcements! Indeed, one might ask why UKIP would want to be associated with a party which some here now regard as being tainted by its poster campaign?

I think you're having a joke and being frivolous! Enjoy your joke!

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mkpdavies · 27-04-2008, 10:04 AM

If I were an English Democrat, I would still vote EDP and I would give UKIP my second vote.

If I were a Londoner I would vote UKIP and give my second vote to EDP.

If I were a racist or thought Hitler had a point, I would vote BNP and give my second vote to Winston for a laugh.

If I were just a Socialist, I would vote Left List and Respect.

If I were mentally retarded or I actually liked the idea of living in a 1984 type world, then Tories, Labour or Lib Dems would be my choice. Probably the Tories and Labour as the premier parties for making Britain obsolete.

Richard Allen · 27-04-2008, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassie

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I'm surprised at you Britannist, you seem to have caught some kind of election fever!

What is your objective evidence for asserting what 'most[??] would expect'?

These aren't American Primaries, you know and neither the EDP (nor any other party) is under any obligation whatsoever to make the announcements you say are 'expected'.

Wisdom would dictate that they make no such announcements! Indeed, one might ask why UKIP would want to be associated with a party which some here now regard as being tainted by its poster campaign?

I think you're having a joke and being frivolous! Enjoy your joke!

___________________

From what I can gather the UKIP leadership are not interested, and rightly so, in working with the EDP.

jp · 27-04-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If I were an English Democrat, I would still vote EDP and I would give UKIP my second vote.

If I were a Londoner I would vote UKIP and give my second vote to EDP.

If I were a racist or thought Hitler had a point, I would vote BNP and give my second vote to Winston for a laugh.

If I were just a Socialist, I would vote Left List and Respect.

If I were mentally retarded or I actually liked the idea of living in a 1984 type world, then Tories, Labour or Lib Dems would be my choice. Probably the Tories and Labour as the premier parties for making Britain obsolete.

Another classic post by Matt - So pleased your back, makes me read this site more!

ANGLO-STAFFS · 27-04-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Allen

From what I can gather the UKIP leadership are not interested, and rightly so, in working with the EDP.

From what I can gather the UKIP leadership are not interested in working for their candidates.

Any non-London election info on the website yet, or are they waiting until friday?

Britannist · 28-04-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

I am not standing for the Mayoral office. I am quite busy enough not leafleting my huge South West constituency while standing for the London Assembly. But, Britannist, I am pleased that you think I am a credible candidate for the mayoral office. My sights are, however, set much lower and realistically. And with good justification. I breathed a sigh of relief to see that the OMRL Party were not standing in the South West! All the best...Andrew

Thank you for your reply, Andrew.

Sorry about my error - I should have known (that you are not a candidate in this week's London Mayoral Election) considering I keep linking my postings through to a full list of candidates for the London Mayoral Election.

I have just taken about 24 hours off from posting to the forum to familiarise myself with the full list of Mayoral candidates

.

I think I got confused into thinking you were a candidate for the London Mayoralty this time because you look and sound like a candidate in your article for the London Elects website about what you would do if you were our Mayor (an article which I had read again - just before I opened this thread).

I provide a link to your article (which I first read on 15.3.2008) for those who have not yet read your plans for the capital if you were London Mayor:

London Elects YOU! - Andrew Constantine's Member Profile

mkpdavies · 28-04-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp

Another classic post by Matt - So pleased your back, makes me read this site more!

Thanks. I think you are my only fan left. All the rest hate me.

Britannist · 28-04-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassie

I'm surprised at you Britannist, you seem to have caught some kind of election fever! I think you're having a joke and being frivolous! Enjoy your joke!

Thank you for your reply, Cassie

.

As explained in posting eight to this thread:

Just before opening this thread I had read an article by Andrew about what he would if he were London Mayor. He looks and sounds like a Mayoral candidate in that article (please refer to the link in the last posting to this thread) and I therefore assumed he was a candidate for the London Mayoralty. Which, of course, Andrew is not. Although, as we know, Andrew is standing as Free England Party candidate for the South-West constituency in this week's Greater London Assembly elections.

The list of candidates for the 2008 London Assembly Election in the South-West constituency:

South West (covering the London Boroughs of Hounslow, Richmond upon Thames (Richmond-Twickenham) and Kingston upon Thames) -

Tony Arbour, Conservative Party
Mr. Andrew Constantine, Free England Party
Roger Cooper, English Democrats
Andrew Cripps, National Front
Peter Dul, UK Independence Party
Tansy Hoskins, Left List
John Hunt, Green Party
Stephen Knight, Liberal Democrats
Sue May, Christian Peoples Alliance and Christian Party
Ansuya Sodha, The Labour Party

27-04-2008, 01:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Now English Dems. have no Mayor candidate, will they back Free England candidate? Now that the English Democrat Party (EDP) has no candidate of its own in this week's London Mayoral Election most would expect them to make one of two announcements: 1. That its members/supporters/voters back the UKIP London Mayoral candidate (Mr. Gerard Batten MEP) but vote for the EDP London Assembly candidates. In return UKIP could agree (at least in some areas) not to contest wards/seats where EDP candidates are campaigning (after this week's London/local elections are over). 2. That its members/supporters/voters back Mr. Andrew Constantine of the Free England Party (FEP) in this week's London Mayoral Election. In return the FEP might announce that its members/supporters/voters back EDP candidates in those London Assembly constituencies it is not contesting. The EDP might also suggest that voters back one of the two Mayoral candidates mentioned above (Mr. Batten or Mr. Constantine) in the first round of voting and Conservative MP Boris Johnson in the second round of voting. The EDP could also - now its own candidate has quit the EDP Mayoral Election campaign - advise its members/supporters/voters to back Mr. Constantine (of the Free England Party) in the first round of voting in this week's London Mayoral Election and Mr. Gerard Batten MEP (UKIP) in second preference voting (or the other way around). The EDP, FEP and UKIP should work together as and where they can to avoid splitting the pro-England and anti-EU vote at election time. Efforts should be made to organise so that only one of the above-named parties contests a ward/constituency election. Perhaps Kentishman, who posts here and who is a member of the English Democrat Party (and who is his party's 2008 London Assembly Election candidate for Bexley-Bromley), will tell us when the EDP have made a decision of what to recommend that its members/supporters/voters do now that the EDP 2008 London Mayoral Election candidate says he has resigned. London Mayoral Election 2008 candidates: Richard Barnbrook - British National Party, Gerard Batten - UK Independence Party, Siân Berry - Green Party, Alan Craig - Christian Peoples Alliance and Christian Party , Lindsey German - Left List, Boris Johnson - Conservative Party, Ken Livingstone - The Labour Party, Winston McKenzie - Independent, Matt O'Connor - English Democrats, Brian Paddick - Liberal Democrats. Full details of the London Mayoral and Assembly candidates for the 1.5.2008 London Elections at: London Elects - The candidates and in posting number three at: UKIP Gerard Batten London mayor Election Broadcast Last edited by Britannist; 27-04-2008 at 01:28 AM.

27-04-2008, 10:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,832 Party: Libertarian Party	If I were an English Democrat, I would still vote EDP and I would give UKIP my second vote. If I were a Londoner I would vote UKIP and give my second vote to EDP. If I were a racist or thought Hitler had a point, I would vote BNP and give my second vote to Winston for a laugh. If I were just a Socialist, I would vote Left List and Respect. If I were mentally retarded or I actually liked the idea of living in a 1984 type world, then Tories, Labour or Lib Dems would be my choice. Probably the Tories and Labour as the premier parties for making Britain obsolete. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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27-04-2008, 09:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,852	_________ I'm surprised at you Britannist, you seem to have caught some kind of election fever! What is your objective evidence for asserting what 'most[??] would expect'? These aren't American Primaries, you know and neither the EDP (nor any other party) is under any obligation whatsoever to make the announcements you say are 'expected'. Wisdom would dictate that they make no such announcements! Indeed, one might ask why UKIP would want to be associated with a party which some here now regard as being tainted by its poster campaign? I think you're having a joke and being frivolous! Enjoy your joke! ___________________