The English Democrats party are finished.???

tinks66 · 03-05-2008, 06:58 PM

[COLOR="DarkRed"]but you neglect to explain properly why the EDP had a SNP MP speak at their party conference last year. Should your post not have read the EDP sides with pro-EU so-called nationalists?[/color]

Maybe you should ask Andrew.....he was there too........& if I remember rightly applauded his speech!!

This is old old news...... which I am sure has been explained time and time again.....

Scrapping the barrel?

Rebirth · 03-05-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Rebirth, you made the claim that Free England sides with pro-EU so-called nationalists, but you neglect to explain properly why the EDP had a SNP MP speak at their party conference last year. Should your post not have read the EDP sides with pro-EU so-called nationalists?

You was ED then, so perhaps you could explain? From what I gather, it was just one guy at a conference.

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Oh, and don't worry, we won't be apologising on your behalf, we would prefer you to be seen as you really are.

A party who seeks a political union in a federal sence for the UK, without rushing in and wrecking a 300 year old union for the benefit of europhiles? Or was that just personal?

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

I have explained to you why we would work with the SNP and PC. It is not about closer involvement with the EU, it is about one single aim. What Scotland and Wales do after independence is entirely up to them. If they want to remain in the EU, that's up to them. I'm only concerned with England being free from the UK and the EU.

I just find it damn creepy that the FEP are so anti-EDP and pro-Plaid when the EDP's policies are close to what you claim to seek. The EDP are being 'democratic' about the union and seems to simply want a fair debate on it's future, if a future for the union exists.

Richard the Lionheart · 03-05-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tinks66

[COLOR="DarkRed"]but you neglect to explain properly why the EDP had a SNP MP speak at their party conference last year. Should your post not have read the EDP sides with pro-EU so-called nationalists?[/color]

Maybe you should ask Andrew.....he was there too........& if I remember rightly applauded his speech!!

This is old old news...... which I am sure has been explained time and time again.....

Scrapping the barrel?

You seem to forget, Andrew is pro-independence, as is Angus Macneill. I was responding to certain claims made by Rebirth, now you chip in trying to sweep it under the carpet.

Would YOU like to offer an explanation as to why he was there?

Still, after your poster campaign, I'm pretty sure the SNP won't have anything to do with you again. Talk about how to win friends and influence people...........

Rebirth · 03-05-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

You seem to forget, Andrew is pro-independence

Was he always?

tinks66 · 03-05-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

You seem to forget, Andrew is pro-independence, as is Angus Macneill. I was responding to certain claims made by Rebirth, now you chip in trying to sweep it under the carpet.

Would YOU like to offer an explanation as to why he was there?

Still, after your poster campaign, I'm pretty sure the SNP won't have anything to do with you again. Talk about how to win friends and influence people...........

As I have said...this is old old news..which has been expained time and time again...as you well know!!

Now do stop bitching

Richard the Lionheart · 03-05-2008, 07:28 PM

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You was ED then, so perhaps you could explain? From what I gather, it was just one guy at a conference.

A Europhile, I believe you call the SNP?

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A party who seeks a political union in a federal sence for the UK, without rushing in and wrecking a 300 year old union for the benefit of europhiles? Or was that just personal?

A 300 year old union that is just about to wreck England for good. It's successive union governments that have continually signed away our rights to the EU superstate.

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I just find it damn creepy that the FEP are so anti-EDP and pro-Plaid when the EDP's policies are close to what you claim to seek. The EDP are being 'democratic' about the union and seems to simply want a fair debate on it's future, if a future for the union exists.

We're not anti-EDP, we're pro-independence for our country. I was at the Future of England Conference last weekend and spoke to many of my ex-EDP colleagues, including the chairman, and relations were cordial. I even texted the EDP spokesperson and told him he delivered the best speech of the day. Hardly the antics of someone who is anti EDP is it?

This part of the debate is about your claim that Free England cosy up to pro EU parties. I have already told you that we're willing to work with the SNP and PC to achieve the aim of independence. By your argument, you would refuse to work with Frank Field MP because he belongs to pro-EU Labour. We'd work with him, and you will find so would your party, so would the CEP, and so would just about everyone who supports an English parliament. He was due to speak at last week's conference but ill health kept him away. Just because one doesn't agree with some issues, it doesn't deter people from working with individuals or parties on common objectives.

Richard the Lionheart · 03-05-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tinks66

As I have said...this is old old news..which has been expained time and time again...as you well know!!

Now do stop bitching

Please point me to any sources you may have which offers an explanation........if you can

tinks66 · 03-05-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Please point me to any sources you may have which offers an explanation........if you can

Sure I will.........Andrew!

Richard the Lionheart · 03-05-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tinks66

Sure I will.........Andrew!

Now how about showing me the documentary evidence, after all, you did say this has been explained time and again.

Rebirth · 03-05-2008, 07:40 PM

SNP are pro-EU, and we are talking about ONE person at a conference a year ago, something you would probably have more knowledge about as you was in the party back then, but fail to bring any light to the subject...why?

Oh, it's the common objectives that concerns me. The short time I have got involved with politics has taught me it's full of ego-maniacs and back-stabbers, not a tactic that deserves any respect.

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03-05-2008, 06:58 PM	#71 (permalink)
tinks66 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Neverland Posts: 59	[COLOR="DarkRed"]but you neglect to explain properly why the EDP had a SNP MP speak at their party conference last year. Should your post not have read the EDP sides with pro-EU so-called nationalists?[/color] Maybe you should ask Andrew.....he was there too........& if I remember rightly applauded his speech!! This is old old news...... which I am sure has been explained time and time again..... Scrapping the barrel?

03-05-2008, 07:40 PM	#80 (permalink)
Rebirth Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 353	SNP are pro-EU, and we are talking about ONE person at a conference a year ago, something you would probably have more knowledge about as you was in the party back then, but fail to bring any light to the subject...why? Oh, it's the common objectives that concerns me. The short time I have got involved with politics has taught me it's full of ego-maniacs and back-stabbers, not a tactic that deserves any respect.