Will the Real Joanna Lumley Stand Up

Kentishman · 20-04-2008, 12:06 AM

Will the real Joanna Lumley please stand up

http://www.bexleytimes.co.uk/content...A41%3A29%3A883

17 April 2008

NAME GAME: The Real Joanna Lumley.

TODAY the Times reveals a candidate running in the Greater London Authority elections claims to be Joanna Lumley.

English Democrat Johanna Munilla, 38, is using the Absolutely Fabulous star's name in a ruse to get supporters to vote her to power in Greenwich and Lewisham.

In her manifesto the Spanish piano teacher turned politician talks about running to get 'justice for England and its

people'.

Now the real Joanna Lumley and the star's agent are probing the claim after we discovered the candidate's stage name and contacted the star.

Agent Kate Plumpton said: "I have certainly not heard of this. Joanna has not mentioned it to me but I will speak to her about this so she is aware."

Johanna Munilla, from Kennington, is listed on the GLA website and uses the former Avenger actress's name amongst others. She is expected to stand under the name Joanna Lumley when voting starts on May 1.

Her biography begins: "My name is Joanna Lumley". She goes on to explain how she learnt about the party through the campaign for an English Parliament and St George's Day events.

In the manifesto she claims 'skinhead yobbos' have hijacked the English flag but her party wants to overturn the idea that the Saint George's flag is a racist symbol.

Under the page headline 'Warning: Read Carefully' she attacks the division between England and Scotland saying English citizens do not have their own voice because Scotland has too much control over the country.

She goes on to blast Prime Minister Gordon Brown for being Scottish and claims the public have been gagged over the issue of an English Parliament,

She rants: "The Labour party Prime minister is Scottish voted by a Scottish constituency, most of the MP are Scottish, and someone made a policy in the Westminster parliament about don't to talk about an English parliament, that is discrimination for all of us that is not democracy. We are a democracy "Democrat" means also freedom to speak."

She also claims millions of pounds of Londoners' money is sent to Scotland, adding: "The English Democrats are not against the UK but we want the same rights if we pay for it. No one should be stupid to pay too much and don't get anything back properly.

"If you travel to Scotland you will be discriminated to be English, you will see only Scottish flags in every where not the UK flag so what is wrong with England."

Steve Uncles, agent for the candidate, said: "For a couple of years now the rules have been that candidates can stand under any name. There are probably about 3,000 Joanna Lumley's out there.

"This is her stage name so she is more well-known as Joanna Lumley. We have not told the real Joanna Lumley." As we went to press Ms Munilla was unavailable for comment.

cassie · 20-04-2008, 12:27 AM

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At one time, candidates could stand for election under a description of their own choosing. Unfortunately, after the Lib (???) Dems felt hard done to by a candidate who stood under the label of 'Literal Democrats', legislation was passed restricting candidates to the label of 'Independent' unless they were candidates of a registered political party.

So, the only remaining scope for variety [interpret that as you may!] is in candidates' names. Women already vary their titles between Miss, Ms and Mrs and between their maiden and married names. Every reason then to go the whole hog and adopt yet another name! Will any male candidates be following suit we ask?

Perhaps there will be more than one Rhodri Morgan standing in the next Welsh Assembly elections, and more than one Alex Salmond (Alec Salmon?) and even a Sean Connery in the next elections for the Scottish Parliament? If that happens, I can just see the legislative draftsmen sharping up their quills!

In the meantime, it is to be hoped that Miss Lumley in one form or another will bring the prominence we all desire to the campaign for a separate parliament for England!

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Kentishman · 20-04-2008, 12:29 AM

Joanna Lumley Campaigning for Parliaments for Tibet & England !

cassie · 20-04-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kentishman

Joanna Lumley Campaigning for Parliaments for Tibet & England !

YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL OF WHAT YOU ARE PUBLISHING HERE!

I would advise you to take down this misleading photo! A joke's a joke, but this may not be seen as one by those who matter!

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Kentishman · 20-04-2008, 12:57 AM

Joanna Lumley is honestly a leading member of the Campaign for a Free Tibet

cassie · 20-04-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kentishman

Joanna Lumley is honestly a leading member of the Campaign for a Free Tibet

. . . and campaigning for a parliament for England? I wish!

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Kentishman · 20-04-2008, 01:22 AM

maybe in the future !

cassie · 20-04-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kentishman

maybe in the future !

Yes, but sometimes people can be deterred by others' bad manners in the form of presumptiousness!

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Aardvark · 20-04-2008, 11:27 AM

There are unlikely to be 3000 Joanna Lumleys as claimed by Steve Uncles. It is unlikely that there are 3000 Lumleys in the UK. Lumley is not a common surname like Smith (1.3% of the population), Taylor, Brown, Edwards, White, Williams or Thomas. There are 60 million of us. If there were 30,000 (guess)surnames or variants then that would make an average of 2000 per name. divide by another 1000 first names (weird and wonderful) and you're down to an average of 2 persons with each name. Many first names are only used by a small number of people so that Ottoline (a rare female name) would not feature with all surnames whereas John is popular and would occur with most surnames. For there to be 3000 Joanna Lumleys would possibly imply that the surname Lumley is up there with Smith, Brown and Edwards.

Ludicrous claims do not add to the credibility of the person making the claim.

Kentishman · 20-04-2008, 07:56 PM

I think we have establised the principle that is is highly likely that there are at least two Joanna Lumleys.

It's been established that there are two "Steve Uncles".

Now that's a scary thought !

20-04-2008, 12:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kentishman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dartford, Kent Posts: 1,872	Will the Real Joanna Lumley Stand Up Will the real Joanna Lumley please stand up http://www.bexleytimes.co.uk/content...A41%3A29%3A883 17 April 2008 NAME GAME: The Real Joanna Lumley. TODAY the Times reveals a candidate running in the Greater London Authority elections claims to be Joanna Lumley. English Democrat Johanna Munilla, 38, is using the Absolutely Fabulous star's name in a ruse to get supporters to vote her to power in Greenwich and Lewisham. In her manifesto the Spanish piano teacher turned politician talks about running to get 'justice for England and its people'. Now the real Joanna Lumley and the star's agent are probing the claim after we discovered the candidate's stage name and contacted the star. Agent Kate Plumpton said: "I have certainly not heard of this. Joanna has not mentioned it to me but I will speak to her about this so she is aware." Johanna Munilla, from Kennington, is listed on the GLA website and uses the former Avenger actress's name amongst others. She is expected to stand under the name Joanna Lumley when voting starts on May 1. Her biography begins: "My name is Joanna Lumley". She goes on to explain how she learnt about the party through the campaign for an English Parliament and St George's Day events. In the manifesto she claims 'skinhead yobbos' have hijacked the English flag but her party wants to overturn the idea that the Saint George's flag is a racist symbol. Under the page headline 'Warning: Read Carefully' she attacks the division between England and Scotland saying English citizens do not have their own voice because Scotland has too much control over the country. She goes on to blast Prime Minister Gordon Brown for being Scottish and claims the public have been gagged over the issue of an English Parliament, She rants: "The Labour party Prime minister is Scottish voted by a Scottish constituency, most of the MP are Scottish, and someone made a policy in the Westminster parliament about don't to talk about an English parliament, that is discrimination for all of us that is not democracy. We are a democracy "Democrat" means also freedom to speak." She also claims millions of pounds of Londoners' money is sent to Scotland, adding: "The English Democrats are not against the UK but we want the same rights if we pay for it. No one should be stupid to pay too much and don't get anything back properly. "If you travel to Scotland you will be discriminated to be English, you will see only Scottish flags in every where not the UK flag so what is wrong with England." Steve Uncles, agent for the candidate, said: "For a couple of years now the rules have been that candidates can stand under any name. There are probably about 3,000 Joanna Lumley's out there. "This is her stage name so she is more well-known as Joanna Lumley. We have not told the real Joanna Lumley." As we went to press Ms Munilla was unavailable for comment. __________________ Click for English Democrats Site Tel: 0907 004 1066 (24hrs) English Democrats - Englands Serious National Party VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THIS POST ARE PERSONAL

20-04-2008, 12:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kentishman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dartford, Kent Posts: 1,872	Joanna Lumley Campaigning for Parliaments for Tibet & England ! __________________ Click for English Democrats Site Tel: 0907 004 1066 (24hrs) English Democrats - Englands Serious National Party VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THIS POST ARE PERSONAL

20-04-2008, 12:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kentishman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dartford, Kent Posts: 1,872	Joanna Lumley is honestly a leading member of the Campaign for a Free Tibet __________________ Click for English Democrats Site Tel: 0907 004 1066 (24hrs) English Democrats - Englands Serious National Party VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THIS POST ARE PERSONAL

20-04-2008, 01:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kentishman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dartford, Kent Posts: 1,872	maybe in the future ! __________________ Click for English Democrats Site Tel: 0907 004 1066 (24hrs) English Democrats - Englands Serious National Party VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THIS POST ARE PERSONAL

20-04-2008, 11:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 2,806	There are unlikely to be 3000 Joanna Lumleys as claimed by Steve Uncles. It is unlikely that there are 3000 Lumleys in the UK. Lumley is not a common surname like Smith (1.3% of the population), Taylor, Brown, Edwards, White, Williams or Thomas. There are 60 million of us. If there were 30,000 (guess)surnames or variants then that would make an average of 2000 per name. divide by another 1000 first names (weird and wonderful) and you're down to an average of 2 persons with each name. Many first names are only used by a small number of people so that Ottoline (a rare female name) would not feature with all surnames whereas John is popular and would occur with most surnames. For there to be 3000 Joanna Lumleys would possibly imply that the surname Lumley is up there with Smith, Brown and Edwards. Ludicrous claims do not add to the credibility of the person making the claim. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

20-04-2008, 12:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
cassie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,755	- At one time, candidates could stand for election under a description of their own choosing. Unfortunately, after the Lib (???) Dems felt hard done to by a candidate who stood under the label of 'Literal Democrats', legislation was passed restricting candidates to the label of 'Independent' unless they were candidates of a registered political party. So, the only remaining scope for variety [interpret that as you may!] is in candidates' names. Women already vary their titles between Miss, Ms and Mrs and between their maiden and married names. Every reason then to go the whole hog and adopt yet another name! Will any male candidates be following suit we ask? Perhaps there will be more than one Rhodri Morgan standing in the next Welsh Assembly elections, and more than one Alex Salmond (Alec Salmon?) and even a Sean Connery in the next elections for the Scottish Parliament? If that happens, I can just see the legislative draftsmen sharping up their quills! In the meantime, it is to be hoped that Miss Lumley in one form or another will bring the prominence we all desire to the campaign for a separate parliament for England! -

20-04-2008, 07:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kentishman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dartford, Kent Posts: 1,872	I think we have establised the principle that is is highly likely that there are at least two Joanna Lumleys. It's been established that there are two "Steve Uncles". Now that's a scary thought ! __________________ Click for English Democrats Site Tel: 0907 004 1066 (24hrs) English Democrats - Englands Serious National Party VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THIS POST ARE PERSONAL

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