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The EFP contains some very strange people who are probably best avoided by anybody planning on running a serious English nationalist or patriotic movement. Anybody can wave an English flag.

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Populist Lee

The

>> England First Party <<

are only called that because the Electoral Commission wouldn't allow them to use

>> White Nationalist Party <<.

So we could be asking ourselves what the English Democrats think they have in common with the White Nationalists?

Englander 1

You are not still on about this non-story...mind you if it keeps you happy!

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Vortex

And yet the EDP cuddle up to the England First Party! An overtly neo-nazi group that is clearly beyond the pale! Tell you what Mr Uncles, I have some very interesting contacts with the media and will be imparting your very strange actions to them in the course of the next few days. Now laugh.

Populist Lee

It keeps me VERY happy, thank you.

And a few other people as well . . .

cassie

'Cuddling up to the England First Party' eh? With biassed phraseology like that I'm not surprised you have contacts with the shabby media!

Now then, what is your evidence for 'cuddling up' and all that implies, rather than (say) the more neutral word of 'contact'? We can all use innuendo Vortex; it's a cheap tactic beloved of inadequates without proper sources!

You're just another of those loners without loyalty or commitment, who is free to attack and undermine any others like a jackal, and yet does not have to defend anything or anybody! Why should one laugh at that? You're pitiable!



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Vortex

[quote=cassie;497509]'Cuddling up to the England First Party' eh? With biassed phraseology like that I'm not surprised you have contacts with the shabby media!

Now then, what is your evidence for 'cuddling up' and all that implies, rather than (say) the more neutral word of 'contact'? We can all use innuendo Vortex; it's a cheap tactic beloved of inadequates without proper sources!

You're just another of those loners without loyalty or commitment, who is free to attack and undermine any others like a jackal, and yet does not have to defend anything or anybody! Why should one laugh at that? You're pitiable!

The evidence has come from the keyboard of Kentishman himself, on this very forum. Thank you for your free psychological analysis. Please let me know when you are available for a professional appointment and what your fees are!

Toque

The information comes from Kentishman, and it also comes from articles like this one on the EDP website

English Democrats Party:: News blog

The pictures are missing because they were hosted on the EFP website.

Steven Uncles has traipsed round trying to convince any nationalist of any colour that the EDP is the correct choice of nationalist party, and this article is testament to his success. There's obviously a political naivety on his part about how this sort of behaviour comes across, but what's really worrying about this tactic is the apparently short ideological step that he sees between himself and Alan Wilder (a white nationalist who has arrived at English nationalism out of pragmatic political convenience).

At the moment the EDP's nationalism is purely the nationalism of grievance. The whole world and its dog is against them: multiculturalism, the EU, the Brits, the Scots, the Welsh, etc. And whilst they may have a point, poaching other nationalists from other minority concerns is not the way to assert themselves. To be successful they need to appeal to the vast majority of voters in the centre-ground that presently align themselves with the three main parties. These people are not impressed by the Alan Wilders of this world or, frankly, Steve Uncles or Matt O'Connor.

I'm not an EDP member but I'm sick and tired of the Kentishman propaganda machine because it doesn't just damage his party, it damages the whole English nationalist movement by association.

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Englander 1

Toque I think you say it all....you are not a member of the English Democrats and you are being very selective in your story telling. Surely your efforts would be best served if you got involved.

Toque .....very dissappointed in your recent comments and approach to the EDP....I thought you were a little more reasoned than your recent outbursts....

Keep England in Your Heart

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Toque

Please don't take it personally, I'm told by friends in the EDP that you do some sterling work, they cannot speak highly enough of you.

This is about Steve Uncles and his conduct on this and other public forums; his underhand tactics, and; in particular, the slurs against other English nationalist groups.

He is an officer of your party - a party that claims to be England's premier English nationalist party - and if you believe that his conduct reflects well on you then you are mistaken.

I wasn't particularly impressed by his little war with the English independence people but I kept out of it. Not really my business. However, it became my business when I discovered this comment from Uncles on a Scottish nationalist blog called the Wishart Standard.

THE WHISHART STANDARD: English Democrats and the Man from the KKK

As you can see it is a Scottish blog written by a Scottish nationalist, but Uncles, in his stupidity, seemingly understands it to be written by me. And in a fit of pique he has claimed that the BNP has 'infiltrated the CEP'. Now I don't know any BNP members in the CEP. It might well be that there are some, but infiltration suggests a few, with some sort of strategic aim...********!

Wishart, the author of the blog, is a contributor to the Cross of St George forum. I have no connection to him/her, and neither does the CEP.

Crossofstgeorge Debate :: View topic - Time to Kick out the Racists

I've asked Steve to withdraw the remark or back it up so that the 'infiltration' can be dealt with but he refuses. I've asked him to apologise to the CEP. He refuses.

The man is a complete prat.

And so, I find myself on this forum and I will engage Uncles and the EDP in the manner that he engages others.

Who will blink first? Who do you think has more to lose? Is it the EDP and their National Secretary whose stupidity has annoyed all and sundry? Or is it me, a blogger who is not an official in the CEP but who has forgotten more about English nationalism than Steve Uncles will ever know?

My advice to you is to get Steve Uncles to apologise and stop this absurd and childish behaviour. And the obsessive, deliberately provocative and deconstructive postings on forums also have to stop, it's largely just keyboard diarrhea anyway. He should stop his little war and start writing considered pieces. Perhaps you could get him a little job writing proper press releases or something.

If this doesn't happen then he is going to have to get used to large doses of his own medicine dished out by me regularly, and with increasing venom. I think it is the only language he will understand.

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