cassie

It's all in the words, isn't it Richard! It suits your book to say "yet want to retain a union with them." when you know full well that many EDP members are willing to press for a separate English Parliament albeit within the framework of the UK but would not oppose - and would probably support - the holding of a referendum about separation of England from one or more of the UK's nations. They see the situation as a two-stage process!

Moreover, they would not want to create a situation in which the likes of Brown would be in the position of safeguarding England's interests in any negotiation of the terms whereby (say) Scotland left the Union! This is a perfectly rational and reasonable position, but for you to portray it as hypocritical is not worthy of you, and (worse) lowers you to the same standard as a certain person - who shall be nameless - with whom you've often locked horns, and probably will do so again.

Of course you are free to disagree with other English nationalists, but it does not help your position if you misrepresent other feasible strategies designed to promote England. Yeah, I know the words 'pot', 'kettle' and 'black' are appropriate, but that's not going to deter me from urging a little more respect for others' policies even [especially] if it means raising standards of debate which I know you are very capable of doing!!!!!

Why join the mindless sloganising ranks of those like blueblood1920 who appear to have nothing worthwhile to say.


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Richard the Lionheart

Actually, I think many EDs would oppose the creation of a seperate nation state for England. At their AGM back in September last year, they voted overwhelmingly against offering an independence referendum. I have not seen an official statement from them saying they would support a referendum for England if Scotland were granted one, so on the evidence thus far, it seems unlikely they will move in that direction. As you know, the leadership of the party is staunchly unionist so unless the leadership changes, neither will their policy on this subject.

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cassie

Richard I do not know whether you are being deliberately obtuse, but you are missing the point! Quite simply, you are dressing up (or down, if you prefer) EDP policy in tendentious language!

Is the FEP's political position really so weak that it can only be sustained by characterising alternative policy as 'hypocritical'?

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Populist Lee

Yes, it's quite entertaining when the naive enter political campaigning in the belief "that there is no such thing as bad publicity".

Well. I was wrong, anyway.
I actually thought the EDP posters Steve Uncles put up were a wind-up for this board - - not the whole of London.

What a bunch of plonkers!

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Danny

The EDP were warned about these disgracful posters.They will get what they deserve on may the 1st a thrashing.And RIGHTLY SO

Richard the Lionheart

We are clear in what our objective is: a referendum for the people of England to choose if they wish to remain a part of the union or not. We are also willing to work with other parties to achieve this objective.

EDP policy is clear: the continuation of the union with Scotland, yet they are quite happy to issue posters which slate Scotland. I call it hypocritical, what do you call it?

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cassie

Since you ask: I call it effective.

As for your professed willingness to work with other parties, this will be largely meaningless if you continue to unnecessarily disparage them - and, of course, if they do likewise!

I appreciate how you feel [and I trust you believe this] but, at this juncture, a modicum of restraint might be better for the FEP in the longer term - regardless of how petty others might be. This is not to say that more vigorous postings might be made in other circumstances ie when both the EDP and FEP are not engaged in local elections as they are presently.



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Richard the Lionheart

Yes, and it is something that our chairman has advised FEP members. We want to build a party that is seen and indeed acts different to what has gone before. We want to be a credible party and see it as a way to build trust with the electorate. We have learned much from the EDP (good and bad) and believe this experience can be used to develop our party.

There are of course many members of the EDP that are decent people who we can work with. There are also several that we will never see eye to eye with, as you well know! I guess we will have to wait and see what happens after the elections.

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Englander 1

Some of you on here are so far down on your bellies you seem to have difficulty in commenting on anything in a constructive manner....gutless vichy patriots!

All we want is a fair deal for ALL the people of England..nothing more nothing less!

Some of you pretend to be so righteous it is stomach churning.

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Danny

Englander 1 when you are in politics you are there to be held to account.Lets get back to the Issue of the posters.Do you support them.????