English Democrats - are they a racist party?

Rebirth · 31-03-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

No - I think the Party deserted me.

Just for the record - would you be prepared to contest a local election for the EDP, where you have to try and leaflet 5000 households by your yourself?

Sorry, I must have the wrong person.

As for 5000 households to leaflet on my own? I don't know, depends on how much time I had to do it I suppose. It isn't something I would look forward to.

Why did they desert you?

Northumbrian · 31-03-2008, 06:13 PM

A few of us on Tyneside and Wearside all joined around the same time (4-5 years) but one by one they all got disillusioned with the Party and it's lack of success and dropped out. In 2006 I took on the job of North East chairman, and could I hell get anybody to do anything. The final nail in the coffin came in February when I called a meeting to plan the election campaign. No one turned up and no one made their apologies.

That's why I'm doing what I'm doing now. If I had a team of people, all wanting to get involved with campaigning with the EDP, I probably wouldn't have gone with the FEP on my one-man campaign. I find it all quite depressing, really.

Danny · 31-03-2008, 06:24 PM

Its all very sad whats happened and is happening people need to take a step back.i think its a question of personalities much more than anything else.

Rebirth · 31-03-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

A few of us on Tyneside and Wearside all joined around the same time (4-5 years) but one by one they all got disillusioned with the Party and it's lack of success and dropped out. In 2006 I took on the job of North East chairman, and could I hell get anybody to do anything. The final nail in the coffin came in February when I called a meeting to plan the election campaign. No one turned up and no one made their apologies.

That's why I'm doing what I'm doing now. If I had a team of people, all wanting to get involved with campaigning with the EDP, I probably wouldn't have gone with the FEP on my one-man campaign. I find it all quite depressing, really.

Well, I have been reading your posts for a while now and I wish you all the luck for all our sakes. Yeah, the whole thing is depressing, but that's the state the government wants us all in. Depressed and passive.

I just felt like bashing all your heads together was all. The anger should be on the mainstream parties as it is they who likes to divide everything and everyone up into packages that they can manipulate.

I wish the FEP well and I will be following your progress.

Richard the Lionheart · 31-03-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebirth

Well, I have been reading your posts for a while now and I wish you all the luck for all our sakes. Yeah, the whole thing is depressing, but that's the state the government wants us all in. Depressed and passive.

I just felt like bashing all your heads together was all. The anger should be on the mainstream parties as it is they who likes to divide everything and everyone up into packages that they can manipulate.

I wish the FEP well and I will be following your progress.

Good post Rebirth, thank you, you are right.

Englishman · 02-04-2008, 04:02 PM

I wouldn't say they are full of hatred,
The rest is true and deeply saddening, as they have some decent money behind them and had set a little membership base to start from, both of which could have taken them places if they didn't tow the PC line which yes is just fitting in with this curent PC establishment.

I hope they prove me wrong, and would hope that they make some big changes and become more radical after the London elections if they do very poor, but feel this is where they should have made the changes already.
If they don't do well and still don't make any radical changes, they are banging their heads agains't an English public wall, who want something radical and they want it yesterday!

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Originally Posted by Rye Spangle

EDs are so confused. They are full of hate and crippled by political correctness at the same time!

The only way they can express their hatrid is to attack groups the PC establishment say it is OK to attack (e.g. white Scottish/Welsh/Irish). The EDs think they are 'fighting the establishment', but in reality they are playing by the rules that the self-loathing politically correct establishment set years ago.

Englishman · 02-04-2008, 04:18 PM

I think you maybe need to do what I did, and shake off the politics, and go and fight things how you wish to for the English from the English, with no party line to follow and no rules at all, your own boss.
I have got people around me willing to help and see people around me making a stand just because they see me making a stand.
I have created a huge subject in Leicester, which has became national news in the papers, which many are talking about in Leicester and I have got the majorety of public opinion on my side concerning my campaign against the Gandhi statue proposal here in Leicester.
I even got onto BBC Asian Radio concerning the Gandhi statue, and turned the topic into the ethnic and cultural cleansing of the English, which they let go on for an hour and a half....
I doubt that the EDP or even the FEP would have let me do that one!
Yet it was right, and it was effective, as some Asians on that radio station understood where I was coming from! and now some Asians have turned on Keith Vaz and have signed the petition against the statue!! not that I need their help, as the English have signed it in their masses any way!!!

Its turned into the English people mainly against Keith Vaz a politician, and even if he ignores public opinion and gets the go ahead for this statue, it will no doubt cause much racial tension, as the English people are finding their voice hear due to me showing them that you can make a stand and can speak out for the English, and many of the English here are becoming very angry with this statue proposal.

All this without politics, and all this not having to stick to party line etc doing my own thing for the English form the English.

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

A few of us on Tyneside and Wearside all joined around the same time (4-5 years) but one by one they all got disillusioned with the Party and it's lack of success and dropped out. In 2006 I took on the job of North East chairman, and could I hell get anybody to do anything. The final nail in the coffin came in February when I called a meeting to plan the election campaign. No one turned up and no one made their apologies.

That's why I'm doing what I'm doing now. If I had a team of people, all wanting to get involved with campaigning with the EDP, I probably wouldn't have gone with the FEP on my one-man campaign. I find it all quite depressing, really.

david H · 02-04-2008, 04:30 PM

The EDP are part of a type who lack the courage to take on the PC establishment. They want to be nationalists but are too weak to face the race relations problem so pretend everyone is English then launch narrow, prejudiced attacks on Scottish people in general. Third Way Centre want to be nationalists but adopted liberalism in the hope the establishment would not be too nasty to them.
Look at the craven apologies you get on here from UKIP - their senior figures are the worst. The UkIP posters on here claim to believe in freedom from state control and to be libertarians but use the totalitarian language of PC which is meant to stop thinking. One poster on here thought that "Homophobia" and "Racism" are not PC terms! How are political parties run by people like that going to come to power? No one respects them. They think they will be alright if they use PC terms of abuse like "Nazi" or "preacher of hate." But they never explain what they mean - just parrot the mindless terms.

cassie · 02-04-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by david H

The EDP are part of a type who lack the courage to take on the PC establishment. They want to be nationalists but are too weak to face the race relations problem so pretend everyone is English then launch narrow, prejudiced attacks on Scottish people in general. Third Way Centre want to be nationalists but adopted liberalism in the hope the establishment would not be too nasty to them.
Look at the craven apologies you get on here from UKIP - their senior figures are the worst. The UkIP posters on here claim to believe in freedom from state control and to be libertarians but use the totalitarian language of PC which is meant to stop thinking. One poster on here thought that "Homophobia" and "Racism" are not PC terms! How are political parties run by people like that going to come to power? No one respects them. They think they will be alright if they use PC terms of abuse like "Nazi" or "preacher of hate." But they never explain what they mean - just parrot the mindless terms.

Who truly cares what an uncommitted and moaning non-joiner thinks?

You've nothing to bring to the feast except allegations. No, nothing positive, no constructive suggestions - just sanctimonious whining.

Tell us all about your other obsession - Culture Wars! Don't suppose you'd care to tell us how you would define that term? No! You're of the type which not only lacks the courage but also lacks the knowledge.

Boo! Pish!

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david H · 02-04-2008, 06:09 PM

I explained culture wars twice and others noticed like Geoffrey Collier, yet you missed it! That is just pretending. You could not understand it. If the leadership of the parties I mention are not doing a good job I, like everyone else, am entitled to comment. You are less entitled to comment than me because you actively tried to destroy the EDP. If Atkins and Constantine are naive enough to let you join them you will start trying to cause friction amongst their leaders.

02-04-2008, 04:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,362	The EDP are part of a type who lack the courage to take on the PC establishment. They want to be nationalists but are too weak to face the race relations problem so pretend everyone is English then launch narrow, prejudiced attacks on Scottish people in general. Third Way Centre want to be nationalists but adopted liberalism in the hope the establishment would not be too nasty to them. Look at the craven apologies you get on here from UKIP - their senior figures are the worst. The UkIP posters on here claim to believe in freedom from state control and to be libertarians but use the totalitarian language of PC which is meant to stop thinking. One poster on here thought that "Homophobia" and "Racism" are not PC terms! How are political parties run by people like that going to come to power? No one respects them. They think they will be alright if they use PC terms of abuse like "Nazi" or "preacher of hate." But they never explain what they mean - just parrot the mindless terms. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

02-04-2008, 06:09 PM	#50 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,362	I explained culture wars twice and others noticed like Geoffrey Collier, yet you missed it! That is just pretending. You could not understand it. If the leadership of the parties I mention are not doing a good job I, like everyone else, am entitled to comment. You are less entitled to comment than me because you actively tried to destroy the EDP. If Atkins and Constantine are naive enough to let you join them you will start trying to cause friction amongst their leaders. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

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31-03-2008, 06:13 PM	#42 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,161 Party: Free England Party	A few of us on Tyneside and Wearside all joined around the same time (4-5 years) but one by one they all got disillusioned with the Party and it's lack of success and dropped out. In 2006 I took on the job of North East chairman, and could I hell get anybody to do anything. The final nail in the coffin came in February when I called a meeting to plan the election campaign. No one turned up and no one made their apologies. That's why I'm doing what I'm doing now. If I had a team of people, all wanting to get involved with campaigning with the EDP, I probably wouldn't have gone with the FEP on my one-man campaign. I find it all quite depressing, really.

31-03-2008, 06:24 PM	#43 (permalink)
Danny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 700	Its all very sad whats happened and is happening people need to take a step back.i think its a question of personalities much more than anything else.