Free England Party - the single candidate for the London Assembly

Andrew Constantine · 26-03-2008, 07:40 PM

I have today registered as a candidate for the South West constituency for the London Assembly.

This constituency is really supersized with over 450,000 electors and includes the London boroughs of Richmond, Kingston and Hounslow. The timing of this election is a little early for the party - we were only registered in February.

One interesting feature is that it is (per Kentishman and other FED's angry posts on the cosg foum) the first time that two English nationalists have competed in the same constituency.

For those who like that sort of thing, the cosg fourm has some real nasty posts from the FEDs about my standing. I think's its well time some of the immature members of the FEDs grew up and learned to accept elections are about competition!

To put matters into proportion, I cannot see the FEDs mayoral or Assembly candidates getting more than say, 1% of the votes cast. They are a much longer established and larger party than our Free England Party ... so I guess it will not take too long to count my personal vote! But we will be back in force in 2012 and I hope we will then be fielding a properly funded mayoral candidate and a full slate of 24 candidates for the Assembly.

Northumbrian · 26-03-2008, 07:53 PM

But surely it would be worse for them if the BNP stood. They also want an English Parliament within the Union.

Englander 1 · 26-03-2008, 08:05 PM

Andrew what on earth are you talking about.

This is becoming nothing more than an egotistical trip for you.

We have to stand in all the boroughs to get a political broadcast, your decision to do this is very dissapponting.

cassie · 26-03-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Englander 1

Andrew what on earth are you talking about.

This is becoming nothing more than an egotistical trip for you.

We have to stand in all the boroughs to get a political broadcast, your decision to do this is very dissappointing.

Englander 1 you are getting to deep on this one lighten up

I think it is a positive development that we have more than one English nationalist party campaigning for an English Parliament!

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Andrew Constantine · 26-03-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Englander 1

Andrew what on earth are you talking about.

This is becoming nothing more than an egotistical trip for you.

We have to stand in all the boroughs to get a political broadcast, your decision to do this is very dissapponting.

David

We two do not need to make any silly accusations against each other's behaviours and motivations, as we both know we have acted reasonably throughout. Agreed, please?

The fact that I am standing in "South West" has no real significance for your party generally in these elections, nor for the FED candidate there, Roger Cooper.

You still have the full slate of Assembly candidates: you still get the PPB. Or am I missing something?

KR, Andrew

Northumbrian · 26-03-2008, 09:21 PM

Makes sense, Cassie. It would have been far worse if he'd dropped out of politics (or joined the Tories).

cassie · 26-03-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Makes sense, Cassie. It would have been far worse if he'd dropped out of politics (or joined the Tories).

Too true! My first preference would have been for the parting of ways NOT to have occurred, and I've made no secret of that! However, now that it has, it is better that those who promote the FEP's line should be active.

I am very disappointed (again!) with the somewhat dictatorial and prescriptive attitude which seems to have been adopted by various English Democrats. I drew attention to it last year despite bogus accusations of 'sour grapes'! Now, I am in a somewhat detached and, hopefully, non-partisan position (albeit not of my choosing), and I trust my words will carry more weight?

The best thing now is for both sides to 'hold fire' against each other, at least for the duration of this year's elections, and concentrate on campaigning against all those who would deny England and the English parity with Scotland.

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Richard the Lionheart · 26-03-2008, 09:46 PM

What I find disappointing is the reaction we have had to us standing in just one area where the EDP are standing. We have been made to feel like traitors to English nationalism. The FEP are expected to step down where the EDP choose to stand. That is very undemocratic. On a regular basis we have been questioned as to why we don't go under the EDP umbrella. We tried that and it didn't work.

It's not as though they are going to win in that area, or split the vote so as to stop their candidate getting elected. After recent EDP results in London (1% in Southall, 8 votes in Lambeth), there are hardly any English votes to split!

It seems to me that the EDP want to stop us growing and are citing the adverse effect on English nationalism as a reason. That is undemocratic. we have just as much right to exist as any other party, and we should stand wherever we can. What gives them the right to dictate who can stand where and when? We are a legally registered political party just like many others, and we are campaigning on a particular set of issues, just like many others. We are a new party and are trying to establish ourselves in the tough world of politics. Why should we be forced to back down just because the EDP say so?

As some ED's well know, we were prepared to support them in the London elections, until a couple of their number got abusive towards us. We thought, sod them, we will plough our own furrow. They can do their thing and we will do ours. We are offering voters a chance to support different things. Either a reformed British state or a new English state.

Do they seriously expect to win in the borough? If so, I could understand them being upset. I would too, but they will be lucky to poll 1% of the vote. It is that tiny percentage that is giving them so many problems. It's very odd to see so much aggro over a few morsels.

We are doing a leaflet drop in the area, I beleiev they aren't. In that borough, who is doing more to further English nationalism? They should be applauding us rather than running us down.

Northumbrian · 26-03-2008, 09:53 PM

On a slightly different theme, there are 2 main Unionist and 2 main Nationalist parties in Northern Ireland. Do nationalists etc. spend all their time fighting each other, or do they attack the Unionists? Just wondering.

Richard the Lionheart · 26-03-2008, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassie

The best thing now is for both sides to 'hold fire' against each other, at least for the duration of this year's elections, and concentrate on campaigning against all those who would deny England and the English parity with Scotland.

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Cassie, this was tried on the COSG forum until kentishman broke the truce. We kept our side of the bargain and the site owner even created a special section so that any mudslinging could be done in private, but Kentishman decided that wasn't good enough and made an absolutely disgraceful post about AC. It has made it impossible to deal with the EDP while they allow kentishman to act as a loose cannon. Perhaps when they get to grips with him, we might do business with them.

26-03-2008, 07:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Andrew Constantine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 951 Party: Free England Party	Free England Party - the single candidate for the London Assembly I have today registered as a candidate for the South West constituency for the London Assembly. This constituency is really supersized with over 450,000 electors and includes the London boroughs of Richmond, Kingston and Hounslow. The timing of this election is a little early for the party - we were only registered in February. One interesting feature is that it is (per Kentishman and other FED's angry posts on the cosg foum) the first time that two English nationalists have competed in the same constituency. For those who like that sort of thing, the cosg fourm has some real nasty posts from the FEDs about my standing. I think's its well time some of the immature members of the FEDs grew up and learned to accept elections are about competition! To put matters into proportion, I cannot see the FEDs mayoral or Assembly candidates getting more than say, 1% of the votes cast. They are a much longer established and larger party than our Free England Party ... so I guess it will not take too long to count my personal vote! But we will be back in force in 2012 and I hope we will then be fielding a properly funded mayoral candidate and a full slate of 24 candidates for the Assembly. __________________ Andrew Constantine says: The EU is a French-German racket and is incompatible with democracy. An independent England will quit the EU forthwith. Free England Party - Independence for England http://www.freeengland.com Signatory to The English Claim of Right http://englishclaimofright.com

26-03-2008, 08:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Englander 1 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WARWICKSHIRE Posts: 390 Party: English Democrats	Andrew what on earth are you talking about. This is becoming nothing more than an egotistical trip for you. We have to stand in all the boroughs to get a political broadcast, your decision to do this is very dissapponting. __________________ "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." - Sir Winston Churchill

26-03-2008, 09:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Richard the Lionheart Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 607 Party: Free England Party	What I find disappointing is the reaction we have had to us standing in just one area where the EDP are standing. We have been made to feel like traitors to English nationalism. The FEP are expected to step down where the EDP choose to stand. That is very undemocratic. On a regular basis we have been questioned as to why we don't go under the EDP umbrella. We tried that and it didn't work. It's not as though they are going to win in that area, or split the vote so as to stop their candidate getting elected. After recent EDP results in London (1% in Southall, 8 votes in Lambeth), there are hardly any English votes to split! It seems to me that the EDP want to stop us growing and are citing the adverse effect on English nationalism as a reason. That is undemocratic. we have just as much right to exist as any other party, and we should stand wherever we can. What gives them the right to dictate who can stand where and when? We are a legally registered political party just like many others, and we are campaigning on a particular set of issues, just like many others. We are a new party and are trying to establish ourselves in the tough world of politics. Why should we be forced to back down just because the EDP say so? As some ED's well know, we were prepared to support them in the London elections, until a couple of their number got abusive towards us. We thought, sod them, we will plough our own furrow. They can do their thing and we will do ours. We are offering voters a chance to support different things. Either a reformed British state or a new English state. Do they seriously expect to win in the borough? If so, I could understand them being upset. I would too, but they will be lucky to poll 1% of the vote. It is that tiny percentage that is giving them so many problems. It's very odd to see so much aggro over a few morsels. We are doing a leaflet drop in the area, I beleiev they aren't. In that borough, who is doing more to further English nationalism? They should be applauding us rather than running us down. __________________ The Free England Party - England's Premier Nationalist Party www.freeengland.com .....Serious about England

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26-03-2008, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,422 Party: Free England Party	But surely it would be worse for them if the BNP stood. They also want an English Parliament within the Union.

26-03-2008, 09:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,422 Party: Free England Party	Makes sense, Cassie. It would have been far worse if he'd dropped out of politics (or joined the Tories).

26-03-2008, 09:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,422 Party: Free England Party	On a slightly different theme, there are 2 main Unionist and 2 main Nationalist parties in Northern Ireland. Do nationalists etc. spend all their time fighting each other, or do they attack the Unionists? Just wondering.