London Assembly Candidates 2008

Frith · 26-03-2008, 09:32 AM

David, it's the same with paedophiles grooming children everywhere. Because increased liberty is extended to those who have devious inclinations they are starting to upset the fabric of society. Obviously ordinary Muslims, or anyone else from any other religion or culture, detest criminals and sex offenders as much as the next person. The police aren't themselves terrified, they are being forced into pussy footing around because if they don't they face tribunals and dismissals and having their names dragged through the media when they were only trying to do their job.

blueblood1920 · 26-03-2008, 11:33 AM

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All you need do is look at Tibet. Are the Tibetans "nazis?" Are the Taiwanese "nazis" because they see themselves as separate from China? Are the people of Hong Kong "nazis"? Are the native people of Fiji "nazis"? Are the Zulus "nazis"? Or the Sioux, or the Cherokee? Are the Brazilian Rain-forest people "nazis"? It only works as a fear mongering epithet when applied to Europeans and especially to the English. Are the English "nazis?" If they are why did they fight so hard against Hitler's Germany? Why didn't they hug and combine? Were the French "nazis" because they wanted the real nazis out of France?

This fragile argument isn't working any more. It's attempting to win votes, it's true, but I'm wondering if it has any bite left. I feel it's an infringement on an immigrant's liberty to force him to be English or British. People don't emigrate so they can lose their heritage or connections. They emigrate so they can benefit financially and in other ways. They mostly don't want to be utterly transformed. So the only solution to their increasing numbers and the growth of enclaves that shut themselves off willingly from the host country culture is for them not to emigrate there specifically in the first place. And to go where culture and religion are similar.

This is common sense. And the natives of any country should not be brushed aside as though they were insignificant. How can they be? They belong in a real way and deserve first choice in employment and training and any other benefits. That, too, is common sense, besides the fact that it is unnatural to be otherwise. But you won't convince a liberal. Forget trying. He will call you a nazi. The epithet has lost its force. Today everyone is labelled a nazi or a fascist.

Well said, maybe the only difference between EDP and Labour is that the EDP want an English Parliment.

Frith · 26-03-2008, 12:19 PM

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Well said, maybe the only difference between EDP and Labour is that the EDP want an English Parliment.

Duck! Missiles ahoy! I think the Parliament thing was good a while ago and now the independence thing is looming large. Probably responding to changes in the world and at home interactively. First the EU independence movement and almost inevitably, the tribal alliance

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Englander 1 · 27-03-2008, 11:13 PM

Please be assured we know where we are going and we know what we are doing...and it is good to see we are ruffling a few feathers...our day will come!.....We have a love of our country and we are a determined team that will achieve its objectives.

Andrew Constantine · 27-03-2008, 11:20 PM

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Please be assured we know where we are going and we know what we are doing...

I think I know where you are going too!

Well let's put a marker down for the FEDs in the London Assembly elections. Average vote of, say, less than 2%.

David, care to make a prediction too for your party's results in London on 1 May?

Regards, Andrew

Englander 1 · 27-03-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

I think I know where you are going too!

Well let's put a marker down for the FEDs in the London Assembly elections. Average vote of, say, less than 2%.

David, care to make a prediction too for your party's results in London on 1 May?

Regards, Andrew

Andrew please, dont keep playing games you are fighting the wrong enemy which may bring your true intentions into doubt, please get over the ED and move on...we really wish you well!

Frith · 28-03-2008, 06:05 AM

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Andrew please, dont keep playing games you are fighting the wrong enemy which may bring your true intentions into doubt, please get over the ED and move on...we really wish you well!

I think there's very little doubt concerning Andrew's true intentions.

Richard the Lionheart · 28-03-2008, 10:55 AM

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Andrew please, dont keep playing games you are fighting the wrong enemy which may bring your true intentions into doubt, please get over the ED and move on...we really wish you well!

Plenty of us have moved on....and enjoying every minute of it. Be honest, you do not wish us well. The fact is, we are both competing for similar types of voters. This makes us rivals. You make the claim on your blog that the EDP are England's national party as if you have sole rights over this. That's why you want Andrew to step down from the LA election. You do not want anyone else that wishes to represent England to stand for election. That is probably the real reason why Kentishman met with the EFP. To stifle any other party who wishes to stand on an English nationalist ticket. I support this claim by the number of parties the EDP have swallowed up over the years.

Let me spell it out loud and clear to you Englander 1 so you understand once and for all. You are NOT England's national party, you do NOT have a free hand on English nationalism, you are NOT the be-all and end-all of English nationalism, and you do NOT dictate to us where and when we can stand for election. For too long now, you and your mates have had it all your own way. You run a party that is hardly democratic. You threw Cassie out without following your own rulebook. You suspended Northumbrian without checking the facts. You took loans to the value of over £100,000 without approval from the membership. I could cite so many other examples, but we would be here all day.

You are a gang of dissatisfied Tories/UKIPers in disguise. I would wager your overseas born chairman would jump ship to the Tories if they had an EP policy and offered him an MEP option. Our members do not see your party as English nationalists. We see you as English unionists, or federalists. You may disagree, but that is our opinion. Why do you think so many people have left the EDP?

I don't know why any of us are pretending. We are both in a battle to win the hearts and minds (and votes!) of the people of England. Yes, you have many more years head start on us, but the rate at which you are losing members, it won't take long for us to catch up.

The voters of England will be offered a choice. The EDP's English unionism, or Free England's English nationalism. Like it or not, we are here to stay.

Englander 1 · 28-03-2008, 01:59 PM

Richard that sounds like a bit of a frantic rant...and so many lies....not too worry its becoming a bit of a trademark.

Although your concerns are noted, you can rest assured our membership is growing at very healthy rate.

Richard, in the 16 months i have been a member of the English Democrats (Englands National Party), I cannot remember meeting you at a national event?

The only time I think i might have seen you was at the J4E march when you used the event to try and launch your CIE group....how is that doing?

cassie · 28-03-2008, 02:16 PM

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The twisted thing about the EDP is that they claim to be nationalists yet attack anyone else who claims to be a nationalist. If the EDP are nationalists then they must be nazis! I hope they are destroyed in May.

Why do you express yourself in such extreme and violent terms?

Perhaps you make the mistake of believing that your aggressive slogans are an acceptable substitute for reasoned argument, a skill which you have yet to demonstrate any aptitude whatsoever.

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27-03-2008, 11:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
Englander 1 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WARWICKSHIRE Posts: 390 Party: English Democrats	Please be assured we know where we are going and we know what we are doing...and it is good to see we are ruffling a few feathers...our day will come!.....We have a love of our country and we are a determined team that will achieve its objectives. __________________ "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." - Sir Winston Churchill

28-03-2008, 01:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
Englander 1 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WARWICKSHIRE Posts: 390 Party: English Democrats	Richard that sounds like a bit of a frantic rant...and so many lies....not too worry its becoming a bit of a trademark. Although your concerns are noted, you can rest assured our membership is growing at very healthy rate. Richard, in the 16 months i have been a member of the English Democrats (Englands National Party), I cannot remember meeting you at a national event? The only time I think i might have seen you was at the J4E march when you used the event to try and launch your CIE group....how is that doing? __________________ "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." - Sir Winston Churchill

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26-03-2008, 09:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
Frith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 660	David, it's the same with paedophiles grooming children everywhere. Because increased liberty is extended to those who have devious inclinations they are starting to upset the fabric of society. Obviously ordinary Muslims, or anyone else from any other religion or culture, detest criminals and sex offenders as much as the next person. The police aren't themselves terrified, they are being forced into pussy footing around because if they don't they face tribunals and dismissals and having their names dragged through the media when they were only trying to do their job.