Danny

The leadership of EDP should step down.If they are embarrassed as looks likely on may 1st

cassie

It very much depends upon what you mean by embarrassed.

Why don't you ask them to clearly set out what they want to achieve as a minimum by participating in these elections? That might prove to be a more objective yardstick by which to assess their performance, rather than some unstated, unspecified [perhaps even prejudiced] notion which you are carefully nurturing close to your bosom!


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Danny

Well kentishman did say and I quote that EDP had overtaken UKIP as the leading Anti EU party and london was a good berometer as a first test.Is that good enough for you cassie.??????

blueblood1920

Hopefully a bad EDP result in London will kill them before they even start xD.

cassie

Which begs the question of: what is a bad EDP result!

If they do better than UKIP, will that 'kill' UKIP?


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Andrew Constantine

RTL

It seems to me that there are two outcomes in these London elections:

1. The EDs have found some £50,000 plus to fund deposits, make party political broadcasts, and having the charismatic Matt O'Connor as mayoral candidate and Steve Uncles as their electoral genius, they will cover themselves in glory by winning at least a couple of Assembly seats (via the London wide PR basis) and with Mr O'Connor coming fouth as mayoral candidate after the three main parties: or

2. They will show they have no electoral credibility whatsoever.

Whichever result, England and the FEP will gain:

If the EDs do well, it shows that English nationalism is on the rise and that means our programme of national Independence for England starts to become more mainstream;

If the EDs fail, then Free England will take on the challenge on behalf of England and I would hope to see some more good EDs bail out from that party and join us.

So a win:win for England and FEP.

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david H

Both UKIP and EDP are becoming farcical. Someone said somewhere it is because of the leadership of EDP and that is right. In fact I cancelled my subscription to Steadfast because they interviewed Christine Constable with her mealy-mouthed waffle about civic nationalism. The same is destroying UKIP. We need to face this difficult issue and not bottle it and pretend people are assimulating.

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Johnny Hates Jazz

Lads, Lads, Lads

We are about to start a significant election.

An election involving MORE people then live in Scotland !

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The English Demcorats are standing - all papers will have been submitted and accepted by close of play on Tuesday 25 March 2008.

1 Mayoral Candidate

14 Constituency Candidates

1 Party List

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Let's see what happens on 1 May 2008, with the result announced on the 2 May 2008, we can then analyse the actual poll.

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This is because the English Democrats consistently beat UKIP when the two parties stand against each other.

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MAZZINI

'Back the only party that can save the nation and let them win the 2 seats, or possibly more. Surely you can see the logic now ?'

Apart from vanity, delusion or policy differences one cannot expect parties to stand down to give their so-called 'nationalist' rivals an easy ride. Firstly, the nationalist strains in this country follow the 'three traditions' i.e. Labour, Tory, Liberal.

Within these traditions there are nationalist alternatives:

1. Labour = BNP = English First

2. Conservative = UKIP = ED

3. Liberalism = National Liberals = Libertarian Party?

The above is not exhaustive but representative. It is of course complicated by the Unionist Vs English issue but there is still a division. Of course some parties try to be cross-tradition, particularly upon inception but you will find the more succesful ones follow or get sucked into the tradition(s). The BNP for example would like to say it was a classless party but its most significant support is in W-C areas (inevitably Labour strongholds) which in turn becomes reflected in their propganda, recruits etc.

Without boring everyone with a deeper analysis, suffice to say that UKIP members by and large have little in common with the BNP socially or politically. They do share emotional bonds of national identity (the ethno/civic debate withstanding) but it is not enough to overcome other differences.

Secondly, their respective voters do switch (less political) but not as much as was originally thought (a lot more research needs to done here). Standing down may not 'gift' as many votes to the respective traditions as suggested.

I can only see co-operation occuring once/if the various 'nationalist' parties first seek to concentrate and build support within their 'own' traditions. Once that is achieved (including councillors etc within those traditions 'strongholds') those parties can look at electoral accomodations.

As an aside, one first step might be co-operation on national issues i.e. via campaigning bodies such as the Solidarity Trade Union where there is an attempt to drop the party partisanships. Wether it can work we shall see but i could envisage an anti-EU campaign soliciting all party support (but only if the parties were openly invited at inception). Food for thought.