Englishman

Myself, and I hope others within the English movement especialy the EDP will now pledge as I do,
to do my utmost to cut the squabling and for us to try our best to focus on our own projects and just get on with saving England.

Yes express our views of where we dissagree by all means as usual,
but please end critisism with some fairness and maybe comments such as
'I hope you prove me wrong' etc etc

Lets not let our frustrations of how our backs are against the wall, get the better of us and rip us apart.

Lets keep this English movement moving even faster now, from all areas of our movement which is gaining momentum by the day.

Unite and win!

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Werian Englalond
(Defend England)

The spirit of Wat Tyler !

Millennium3

Without wishing to detract from what you say - do you really believe there is any possibility for an English Parliament once that the Lisbon Treaty is in place. Wouldn't those who wish for a an EP do better to join the movement which is attempting to avoid Britain being swallowed up by the EU?

Frith

Your last comment probably points to why the Independence movement exists today. It has existed for some some, of course, but especially today, with independence movements all over the world becoming feistier alternatives to incorporation. The idea of a mere English parliament doesn't do it for an increasing number of people keen on preservation and not maintenance of any status quo.

Independence isn't a whim, it's a necessity. And that includes independence from things like the EU, or America's demands to stand shoulder to shoulder in trumped up conflicts, or external entities setting standards for trade and causing unwilling partners to be instrumental in the ruination of developing (or even established) economies.

Andrew Constantine

Frith

You express my views perfectly (and in much better language too).

Regards Andrew

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Andrew Constantine
Free England Party - Independence for England
http://www.freeengland.com

http://freeengland.blogspot.com

Signatory to The English Claim of Right
http://englishclaimofright.com

Frith

Actually, I've just found your blog off the FEP web site links page and you are a terrific writer. It will be my morning newspaper from now on.

cassie

OK! So when are you going to amend your biog note on the Freedom Association's website? Link: http://www.tfa.net/pdfs/10837.PDF
There might be something you've yet to tell us and that it remains correct, but I suspect that this is just another detail which has slipped from your busy mind.

Funny how these small matters pop up to bite one on the a*rse!


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Frith

It's simply a statement of fact about Andrew Constantine at the time.

But, more importantly, speaking of biting people in the *rse, who has been biting Mr Constantine on this forum that he has acquired a red mark reputation next to his name which denotes "some shameless behaviour" when he has not been in the least shameless anywhere here. Unlike certain others. Who contrived, and connived, to give him that bad reputation, then? ??????????????????????

cassie

Well, such is the nature of innuendo that one cannot be sure exactly what is being implied or about whom. However, for the avoidance of doubt, let me record that, at this time of writing, I have not left ANY marks about ANYONE.

Frankly, were I to do so, I would much prefer to record something positive . . . unless a particular individual expresses opinion in unacceptable terms, in which case I would probably have taken up the issue direct with Moderators.

Having divested myself of all that, I confirm I agree that Andrew (together with Britannist and one or two others) is amongst the most polite and civil of contributors here and the red mark is undeserved.


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cassie

The fact is that some 528 (81%) of the British Parliament's 645 MPs are elected from Constituencies in England. Unlike Scotland, which does not send a single Englishman to represent it in the Commons, England sends over 30 thirty Scots plus a number of Welsh and Irish individuals.

To a large extent, the demand for 'independence' ['separation' more like!] is unnecessary and divides not only the relatively few active English nationalists, but also many other voters in England.

Once English nationalists win 323+ seats, they can hold sway in the Commons. Then, all things are possible - referenda on a separate English Parliament & Executive, 'separation' of England, continued membership of the EU, an elective Second Chamber etc etc

You can form as many wonderful English nationalist political parties as you wish, but you still have to gain majority support in the Commons for your objectives. One can observe that the Big Three Brit parties go to great lengths to remain intact and try to devise ways of accommodating a variety of opinions which often seem at variance with each other - witness Clarke, Rifikind, Curry and others sticking with the largely anti-EU Conservative Party.

In marked contrast, the 'purist' English nationalists who fail to get their particular policies adopted leave and form yet another party, instead of remaining and seeking to change their present party. The question remains: if such 'leavers' can't influence fellow nationalists, why do they think they can influence other English voters who have yet to realise what has happened to England and the English?

I write this more in sorrow than anger!

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Millennium3

Fine words, but in order to make any changes it is necessary for a political party, with such intent in mind, to hold power at Westminster and there is not a single party pursuing this end but many.

Although the LT is a deliberately complex document, there does appear to be a consensus that after the GE after next the measures in the LT will make it all but impossible for the UK to leave the EU short of bloody revolution.

Time is short and all we seem to get is more and more fragmentation through splits in the existing anti EU parties when what is required is that they unite.