Johnny Hates Jazz

E-mail Question recieved by the English Democrats:

Q: I would like to know your views on mixed race participants in your demo ?

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A: Anyone who in their heart believes they are English, is welcome to join or support, or vote for the English Democrats party and indeed most welcome to attend any of our Marches, Demonstrations or High Street Campaigns.

Those who define their culture in some other way (ie non English), we would suggest would be better placed in the Labour Party or the Liberal Democrats, both political parties that appear to celebrate Anti-Englishness, and appear to de-test, English Culture and traditions.

As far as the English Democrats are concerned “Englishness” is a CULTURAL/NATIONAL IDENTITY, and is NOT defined by DNA.

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KM

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English Democrats SAY NO To European Union

English not British not European
- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections

Westcountryman

Looks like the BNP are testing you.

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Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

Ea of Dune

Well put, that's in my opinion how it should be.

Ea of dune

Johnny Hates Jazz

Looking forward to the test on 1 May

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English Democrats SAY NO To European Union

English not British not European
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Westcountryman

Indeed, and I hope you beat them by a rather large margin.

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Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

Roland

Thats fair enough national sovereignty is a belief and love of your country.

For those of you that want to win the fight against the EU who do not understand this the very word 'racism' was designed to segregate races then to put them in mass with each other then let them fear each other and mistrust each other.

Multi cultralism is a joke and the sad thing is it was placed on those from other cultures to under mine the indigenous culture. It's important to segregate racial hatred from cultural mistrust.

Different races get on just fine. Different cultures clash. The most significant is that between the extreme (not extremist) end of the Muslim culture and that of western culture. The two cultures do not mix.

It's my belief which you may or may not agree with, this was no accident. It's my genuine belief that this was done to undermine national sovereignty and make the people ask the government for protection thus giving more power to the government and taking it from the people.

This move was quite popular with the communists thats why the break off soviet states are in such a mess. All the time a strict totalitarian government was in place their was peace, the moment it fail their was fighting.

This is not an easy situation to get round, but it's not they're fault and they should not be blamed. They are just pawns.

Hope that weren't a bit heavy.

HighlandFP

Ah that is why I am always having Culture Clashes with myself. That explains a lot.

AS a Glasgow born, white [anglo-saxon?] Scottish patriot, extremist politico and admittidly radical Muslim,

"This is not an easy situation to get round, .........."

I shall, "...make the people ask the government for protection thus giving more power to the government and taking it from the people."

P.S. Does anyone know where in the world I can get a
Tartan Prayer mat ?

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cassie

You appear to exemplify the problem! I don't suppose that you ever seriously considered trying to fit in?

Foreigners come to Britain and they and their descendants insist upon practising their imported beliefs and customs! What is the difference between them and others who invade and conquer the indigenous community and then impose their customs etc?

When the 'natives' complain, the new comers frequently cry 'racism'! The true racism is that being imposed by the new comers by way when they make their demands.

The question arises: if foreign beliefs and customs and practices are so valuable, why do not immigrants remain in their respective countries of origin and indulge their foreignness there?

I now await the inevitable 'two wrongs make a right' argument.


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LeCroc

Imported beliefs and customs eh? Best kept out! We're all iron age pagans, culturally speaking, I suppose...

Good point about immigrants staying home though, Cassie. I've often wondered why immigrants moan about this country when the simple solution is to just go home.

On a slightly different tack, I was hearing again today that asylum may be granted in certain cases on teh grounds that urgent medical treatment is not available in the country of origin. Hmmm.

Frith

Yes, we are all iron age pagans. Good point. Keep it in mind as long as you can as you will be chased around by a man in a long white dress carrying a shepherd's club, I mean crook, who will be chased in turn by a secular liberal in an equally long dress, professing that all is evil that is not of one mind and of one flesh. Both closely hounded by new age libertarians carrying the big stick of moral imperative (but not intending to apply it where it is really needed).

You cannot have an English movement without the ethnic English. This can include Britons, Celts and Norse as these are part of what being English has come to mean in England and among the descendants of this folk after nationhood. To include every Tom, Dick and Mustafah after nationhood is to view English as "English" and to see English culture and nationhood as multicultural. There seems little point in having an English movement, English freedom from multicultural interference or any kind of identity if you are going to weld yourself to the scaffolding of the world's millions and celebrate your diversity by utterly ruining it in the same process.

This is not racism. Racism is a psychological disorder. Racial hatred can be inculcated by various forms of anti-everybody indoctrination, but genuine racism is seldom to be found. Most racial friction derives from territorial and cultural clashes. People were not designed to live too close to one another. Animals of the same group cannot do it and neither can primates, from which we stem. Each establishes and defends its own family and extended family territory.

To begin to open your arms to the world-in-one-country approach of modern western liberalism is to invite disaster in for a beer. Disaster will be only too willing to take you up on the offer as he cannot live without stupidity and so he seeks it wherever he can find it and when he finds it he utilizes it until he can no longer survive (you're all gone and your useful culture gone with you) and then goes in search of further stupidity to ply his trade elsewhere among a new set of unenlightened fools.

The European Union is such a set of fools and the invitation to join is such an invitation to disaster. Any group that now feels it must go about with an olive branch clenched in its teeth for the sake of expediency is courting disaster. The EU will not hold, it is like the Roman Empire, too large and unwieldy and restrictive and the need for human individualism and liberty will break open its forced manacles no matter how many times it tries to re-weld the cracks.

An English movement, like a Scottish or Welsh or Irish or Pygmy movement must have at its core the needs and successful survival of the group from which it takes its name and its nature. Otherwise, why bother?

So, first say a very polite "no thanks" to the EU invitation to disaster. If that doesn't work, say a very rude "sod off" to the EU. Then tackle the vital issues of identity. No group or cause or movement can survive for any length of time unless the identity of the group is welded to its intentions and policies. You cannot be the boy scout movement if there are girls in your group. You will either have to tell the girls to get their own group or dissolve the whole thing and start a new mixed gender group. The "scouts". But it must be borne in mind that
"boy scouts " and "girl guides" and just plain old "scouts" are not the same thing. They share characteristics, but they are not the same.

The EU wants everyone in Europe (as well as some people not in Europe, like Turkey) to just be "scouts", or "Europeans". The group is too large, it extends across cultural and ethnic diversity that is too complex for an umbrella group control.

So kick its big fat rear end. It's time anyway, as the EU has grown amusingly inept and draconian in its attempt to control all of the people all the time, while sucking in everything with a pulse from the fringes of its jurisdiction. It's a collection of ghastly old farts who should have been sent into orbit long ago.

Back on the home fronts, people still need to find their identity to make their new groups work. Immigrants often are willing to adopt the culture in which they find themselves and many are mixed race. These are not the problem in one sense and in another, they are a threat to the integrity of the original group if they grow larger and take it by democratic means.

The problems are huge and complex and merely rising to the occasion in political expediency games won't solve them. They need intelligent compassion and tough love tactics to make them work and to make them continue to work. And history can provide a whole heap of lessons as to why they sometimes do work and often don't work and at other times cause hysterical and bloody mayhem.