cassie

Yes, you may well be ethnically English [that is English by bloodline], but the rights of indigenous peoples apply in the land in which they originated; in this case it is England.

You can hardly claim rights as being of an indigenous African people. However, you do have rights there as an ethnic minority - for what that is worth.

It seems to me that you persist in trying to make your situation fit that of a person resident in England, when there are clear differences. Essentially, nationality relates to particular territory. You cannot be English in nationality because you do not live here but, as already recorded, you can be and no doubt are English [regardless of where you were born and live] by ethnicity ie by reason of your forebears (father in your case) having been born in England. As already stated, were you to come to live in England, you would also be English in nationality also.

Does this help?

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Frith

I don't need any help. I know who and what I am. I support people living in England who are English because I am English. I would be free to support English people living in England if I were Italian as well, of course. One may support whomever one wishes.

cassie

You've changed tack! You started by saying: "I originated in Africa but I am ethnically English. I can't go round calling myself an African. I can adopt Africa as my identity and culture if I want to, but that won't make me an actual African. I'll just be a white bird in a caftan."

Now you're on about supporting other people. It seems to me that all you want to do is argue the toss. You raise an issue: I address it: then you move onto other ground! Round and round we go in circles! I think I've observed before, that you aint no mathematician! You can't solve mathematical problems by dropping them in mid-course and moving onto other things.

Words are so variable you can kid yourself you're ahead of the game!

You can think what you like and so can I. One of your problems is that you get so nettled when I express opinions which you do not like, but I'm not going to stop . . .

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gina

Cassie, when will you tell us what the culture wars are? Do you understand the concept? It looks as if all you do is attack people who champion England and English culture. You are a troll and a searchlight agent trying to harm the English movement. Otherwise why did you break up the English Democratic Party? Did Searchlight pay you? Or NuLabour?

TannyD

Not again...

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cassie

Well Gina darlin', you tell me why you are asking abaht the so called Culture Wars first.

In the meantime, get yerself a new pair of specs, then you might be able to clearly see that I do not 'attack' genuine people who seriously promote England and English culture, only those semi-literate poseurs who do not appreciate that the English language and Old Englisc are integral parts of English culture.

I note that you are yet another bod, newly registered to have a pop at me without citing a shred of evidence to support your wild accusations . . . reminds me of David Hamilton and company!

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Ea of Dune

Indeed!

Oft daedlata domæ forældit,
sigisiða gahuem, suuyltit thi ana.

Ea of dune

david H

Yes, and what are called Scottish Border Ballads are really Anglo Saxon ballads.

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Frith

There is just one (more) problem. No one said old English wasn't part of English culture. Anyone who says that is an ignoramus. But then, no one did say it. Cassie just makes it all up as he goes along.

Why he has decided that I attack English people, I don't know. If you, too, are an ignoramus, you will take his word for it and play his game. If you are smart, you will trawl back through the posts and see what is really going on. Agreed that no one could be bothered. However, this doesn't stop Cassie from launching into missile mode every time he spies a potential rival. All posters are rivals unless they worship him and hang on his every word. Remember this. He simply decides who he wants to hate and goes on from there. Morons follow him. Good luck to them. Who needs people like this anyway? Thicker than mucky stuff in a sty, and mostly also bent on trolling.

I'm appalled at the lack of intelligence in some people. It's a disgrace in our time to be so stupid and so incapable of discerning a troll. All trolls have to do is pick on a topic that strikes a chord with some simpleton and they are away with the hounds chasing after the wrong fox. If you are that thick, excellent. Join Cassie's crazy patriot hunt. If not, for the sake of sanity and decorum, both fine but not exclusively English virtues, put on the old glasses and thinking cap and look before you leap.

What have I received from this abomination of an alias since first it encountered me? Bear in mind I have long been an activist and don't need this weird manifestation to dictate to me what it thinks I am or where it thinks I should go and what it thinks I should do. It attacked and insulted and cajoled and rammed and butted and finally attempted to run me through, because it detected not only a rival (it wants to be Emperor, but has no new clothes) but also because it recognises danger when it sees it standing there on the battlefield decked out in the white dragon's banner and spoiling for a fight with anyone who would lay a hand or even a finger on sacred England.

There is only one alternative for this kind of mismanaged and badly trained troll, and that is for it to charge full tilt at the apparition and hopefully knock it off its pure white stallion. If that doesn't work then undermine it. If that doesn't work, then insult it. If that doesn't work then find out who its comrades are and attack them, thus drawing all into one circle so it's mates can see and gesticulate and utter garbled prophecies about the evils of those who apparently are not English or English patriots.

If all this pseudo judo doesn't make any little bells go tring then you need glasses and a lesson in troll spotting. I don't need any lessons in either and neither am I incapable of slaying a troll. Some are just not worth the blunting of a blade.

So, "cassie", why not play nicely with the English activist community worldwide. We who ride under the white dragon or white horse banner are brothers in arms. We do not slay one another. We have only one aspiration, the freedom and future of England and the liberty of the English to be a sovereign nation. If you do too, then why are you attacking everyone in sight who fights for England? David does not live abroad and is a class A patriot yet you call him a "b*tch". You call me a "foreigner". My father and his before him would call you out for this. I do not have to support England or Britain. I have enough of my own problems. But, like all those during times of war when England or Britain were threatened, we will put aside what troubles us and give as much as we can to support the Mother country. We shall request to be burnt after death in the white dragon flag and buried in English soil with our ancestors. Or we shall walk the earth tombless and unbound until England again is free.

Do you understand? Because even if you do not, we shall still come riding on our metaphorical white horses to answer England's call. It is our pledge and our honour and our duty. Not everyone can do the same kind of thing, so every activist is acknowledged for what he or she can do. It is the same for Ireland, Scotland and Wales. All the nations of the great islands in the mist and their descendants round the world will answer the call of their mother countries in their mother tongues. To say we are illiterate and to ridicule us in front of our folk is an insult that would have earned people like Cassie a dismissal from the hall many centuries ago when we still had honour and knew how to use the code of revenge.

So, realise that not all of us are fools nor children and that none of us will back down for you and your nasty tongue. Wormtongue. The nemesis of the old king. Remember what happened and don't underestimate the folk of the white dragon. They are a lot tougher than they may seem.

gina

I think he is jealous of those who are more intelligent than he. Cassie attacks people who can or do write well yet he does not write anything himself. The moderators are through Aardvarkadmitting that they do not moderate the board properly. It is their responsibility to sift through his posts to see how much abuse he has poured on innocent posters simply because they are intelligent and promote English culture and interests.
He attacks a regular writer in the English cause routinely but when pressed to explain if he understood key concepts or the general drift of the articles falls silent.