Libertarian Party go after UK MPs

Mikeuk · 24-02-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperiorSteve

I think that is wrong. You cannot discriminate against people because of physical appearance or background.

(1) In a free society - why not?

(2) If that is what you believe, why do you keep quoting Cecil Rhodes on Englishmen winning first prize in the lottery of life. a quip which clearly implies racial superiority?

It's just a more polite version of the old maxim 'One Englishman is worth three Frenchmen and five Portugees'.

Roland · 24-02-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tito

There is a need for a libertarian movement in the UK, and the time is ripe for it. This party is run by professional people; unlike my experience of UKIP everything is open and transparent to the membership and everyone has a common goal that encompasses every field of policy.

Is that what you were asking?

That just about covers it.

Mikeuk · 24-02-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland

That just about covers it.

I agree that such a party might do a lot of good. Not that I am a libertarian myself, but traditional conservatives need libertarians to argue the case for free speech as it is invariably the free speech of the 'right; which is infringed these days.

Not that I have ever found myself much at odds with a certain type of Thatcherite libertarian. Sean Gabb is a prime example.

devilskitchen · 26-02-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperiorSteve

But personal freedom should include being able to join any political party regardless of other memberships.

Um, no. You are free to join a club as long as you abide by the rules of the club.

We have decided -- after a great deal of discussion -- that one of the rules of our club is that you cannot be a member of a similar club that must, necessarily, have different aims and ideals from our club.

Since these aims and ideals of your club are different, that means that you are not fully behind the aims and ideals of our club. If you are not fully behind the aims and ideals of our club, we are not interested in your membership of said club.

That is the best way that I can sum it up really.

Independent UKIP · 27-02-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by devilskitchen

Um, no. You are free to join a club as long as you abide by the rules of the club.

We have decided -- after a great deal of discussion -- that one of the rules of our club is that you cannot be a member of a similar club that must, necessarily, have different aims and ideals from our club.

Since these aims and ideals of your club are different, that means that you are not fully behind the aims and ideals of our club. If you are not fully behind the aims and ideals of our club, we are not interested in your membership of said club.

That is the best way that I can sum it up really.

If you have had a great deal of discussion on that relatively minor issue I do wonder how you are going to come up with a programme for governing the nation that you will be able to present to the electorate.

devilskitchen · 27-02-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

If you have had a great deal of discussion on that relatively minor issue I do wonder how you are going to come up with a programme for governing the nation that you will be able to present to the electorate.

You'll find out in... well... probably about a month's time, in fact. You have to remember that the five founders have been working on this project since September.

British-Conservatism · 28-02-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

So what if it is discriminatory? It's up the OWNER of the establishment. Why would people want to use such an establishment anyway?

If people want to discriminate, then that its their call. It's up to other people whether they reward that discrimination, or punish it by not doing business with them.

That is freedom.

A good point.

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