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Old 23-02-2008, 03:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I thought Libertarianism was minimal Government intervention/control in the private affairs of it's citizens. If you say someone cannot join a club because they are blonde that is not just discriminatory but also against the concept of freedom. You are saying a blonde cannot join the same way that the Government is saying that Commonwealth citizens won't be able to become British citizens, that is intervention.
If individuals wish to discriminate then that is their call, MKPD summed it up well.

Government discrimination is different though, they cannot discriminate or interfere because we are forced to do business with them.
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Discrimination leads to racism and is wrong. It should stay illegal.
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Discrimination leads to racism and is wrong. It should stay illegal.
If people are dumb enough to hate people because they are different colour to them, then that's their call.

If they don't want to employ someone because they don't like gingers, then same applies.

As long as they don't go out to harm others, that is freedom. Others can judge them on their use of freedom and say what they think of them.
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If that is what you believe, you are most certainly not a libertarian.

It is wrong and twisted, yes, but should certainly not be illegal.
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That isn't the idea of personal freedom. If I opened a bar, and said everyone that comes in isn't allowed to talk and has to sit facing the wall without moving; otherwise they get thrown out; that would be libertarian.
Are you sure your not thinking of new labour. That's they're idea of a cracking night out.

Can I ask where or how your view is obtained before I join.
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Are you sure your not thinking of new labour. That's they're idea of a cracking night out.

Can I ask where or how your view is obtained before I join.
The difference is that nobody is forced to come into my bar. Anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn't ever set foot in there!

New Labour, and the other parties, force control upon you.

My view is eloquently summed up here. While the Manifesto is not finalised, it *is* in line with this great animation

http://isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

Ron Paul has a similar platform to ours
Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America

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Looking at this Libertarian Party poster, what exactly is the policy being promoted? - No MPs? Less pay for MPs? No expenses for MPs?
I don't know what the LPUK's position on this is, personally, I would give MP's no salary at all.
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Looking at this Libertarian Party poster, what exactly is the policy being promoted? - No MPs? Less pay for MPs? No expenses for MPs?
That something is wrong and to get people thinking about what that is.

Hopefuly they will come to the conclusion that we are being robbed blind and in more ways than just MPs living off of our backs like parasites.
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Thats a great video.

But I'd still like to know why you see the libertarian party in the manor you do.

I was thinking of joining so i'd just like your thoughts.
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Thats a great video.

But I'd still like to know why you see the libertarian party in the manor you do.

I was thinking of joining so i'd just like your thoughts.
There is a need for a libertarian movement in the UK, and the time is ripe for it. This party is run by professional people; unlike my experience of UKIP everything is open and transparent to the membership and everyone has a common goal that encompasses every field of policy.

Is that what you were asking?
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