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THE HISTORY OF THE "KIDD LEGACY LAND"

On 28 September 1903 Charles Newman Kidd conveyed land, upon charitable trusts, to the Urban District Council of Dartford. Dartford Borough Council has since succeeded theUrban District Council as charity trustee of the Kidd Legacy land. The Council acting as charity trustee is legally responsible for the Kidd Legacy land. Decisions relating to the charity are for the Council, as charity trustee, to make in the interests of the charity.The charity land was conveyed by an indenture which stated that the land was to be used"…in perpetuity as a public recreation grounds and for no other purpose whatsoever…".The land forms what is now part of Central Park Dartford and is made up of the land described in parts 1 and 3 of the schedule to the Commission’s draft Scheme.

On the 4 June 2004 Dartford Borough Council sold the piece of the Kidd Legacy land described in part 1 of the schedule to the Commission’s draft scheme. The trusts in the1903 indenture did not provide authority for the sale and therefore the sale was in breach of the charitable trusts.

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Wordsworth

At the end of the day, this isn't really about the Kidd Legacy is it, I can't remember the EDs, the Rileys or Jo Shippan being voiciferous on this when the matter was first raised.

I rather think that this is more about Tesco than Kidd.

If this writ is successful (which would quite frankly stun me to the point that I'd think about joining) then what will happen to Dartford and the regeneration? It will stay the same, Lowfield Street will remain the toilet that it has been for the last 15 years. Let's think this through rationally, if possible.

Tesco currently own most of the premises in Lowfield Street so if they were told they couldn't build there store what are they going to do, sell it to one of their rivals like Debenhams etc or just block any future plans for regeneration?

If your chums go ahead (which to be honest would be pretty foolhardy and potentially a financial disaster if they lose) and succeed then will the EDs claim the credit for dealing the final toll on Dartford as a place to shop?

Nice picture of the three amigos scavenging in this weeks local, are the EDS that hard up?

I'm quite sure that this hasn't been properly thought through and is just a bit of opportunism and a chance to get publicity.

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See the article on the Kidds Legacy 9 minutes in

It's gone to the high court

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Wordsworth

I understand that this case is being fought on legal aid, so us taxpayers will now be paying heavily for all costs, win or lose as it is unusual for costs to be awarded to councils in matters such as this.

So if the ED's, sorry Mr Riley, loses after a long and drawn out case, the winners will obviously be the parasite barristers and the loses will be your target voters.

Well done another PR winner for the EDs. The EDs are two steps ahead of everybody again.............D'oh.

I'm stunned really that you haven't got any elected representatives.

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Johnny Hates Jazz

I think it's called using the systme to get publicity - D'oh !

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Wordsworth

Good or bad?

And what about the cost to the taxpayer or is that no concern of you and your band of brothers?

Independent UKIP

How can the English Democrats be in receipt of legal aid in order to take this action? or any legal action for that matter. I know they are heavily indebted to certain members but that doesn't seem a justification for a political party receiving legal aid.

Whatever the merits of the issue it seems to be taking the objectionable issue of taxpayers funding political parties onto a whole new level. (Unless it is just UKIP that doesn't claim legal aid for its legal actions).

Or is it possible that the claim by Kentishman, "Dartford English Democrats Slap Injuction on Dartford Council", is the opposite of truthful?

Wordsworth

You've hit the nail on the head, if the injunction goes t**s up then Kentishman will disappear quicker than an ED candidate in the second round of voting, then again if it costs the taxpayers of Dartford thousands he'd be stupid to claim credit for it. From what I've seen the EDs are 'backing' it as evidenced by Tibby being on the news last week. If it's successful it's 'the EDs wot won it!'

Johnny Hates Jazz

The injunction is in the name of two English Democrats members.

I hope that clarifies matters.

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Bluemerle

It seems the EDs have won the right to get the trial heard at the central registry and Dartford council were told they are in breech of the Charity by the Judge and were guilty of maleadministration.

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