sotonmole

Just how to you come to the conclusion of your subject head?

Claims such as these just show and prove your party is laughable.

Kentishman

No the result for UKIP in Dartford is laughable as was the result in Portsmouth last month.

How many times does the English Democrats have to beat UKIP for you to get the message ?

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sotonmole

im not a ukipper but the ED will never rcv enough support

you are blind in ur belief

You will never overtake Ukip

Raymond Finch

Regarding the Portsmouth result.
Your party had stood there previously. Your candidate is chair of Hampshire and a member of your NC. Your vote dropped like a stone from may.
UKIP had never previously stood in the ward. It was only the second time we have stood anywhere in Portsmouth.
Our score was very disappointing. Yours was a disaster given your previous strength in the city.
Everyones vote dropped against the LDs who had promoted a firefighter as their candidate in a ward where the ONLY election issue was the closure of the fire station.
I will guarantee we will beat you anywhere and everywhere we face you in Pompey in May.
As for becoming bigger and more successful than us. Our membership in Pompey is getting bigger. I know yours is shrinking.

Richard the Lionheart

The claims made by Kentishman are laughable. I'm not a UKIper, but I'm pretty sure that when it comes to the Euro elections their vote is going to increase over the EDP big time.

And I've done a fair bit of leafletting over the years so I'm no stranger to pounding the streets. It's hard but enjoyable work for those that have done it

Now, let's take a look at the EDP vote in recent elections. Fact. On thursday night the EDP trailed in at third place, behind the Tories who we were led to believe had given up in the ward. Third doesn't get you elected in this type of election. Despite being the so-called strongest EDP area, and having an ex-councillor as a candidate, you still failed to win. Portsmouth, another strong EDP area, saw their vote collapse to under 4%. Then there were the two parliamentary by-elections last year in Sedgefield and Southall where the EDP vote was around the 1% mark, getting beaten by the Monster Raving Loony Party in the process. Despite pumping over £100,000 into the party, you have failed to gain anything from it. I believe I'm right in saying that Mike Tibby was already a councillor when he came to the EDP, but has since lost two elections under their banner.

I found your post interesting for one revelation it contained. Around the time the debate took place on whether it was wise to attend a meeting with the England First party, you publicly stated that you would withdraw from the meeting. It now comes to light that you DID indeed attend such a meeting. Knowing the history and background of that party, why would you want to associate the EDP with such an extreme organisation, who support racist policies, and I might add, have a policy for an independent England? What is it that you might have in common with them? It is not independence for England that's for sure. Can I ask, do you support their racist ideology?

You seem to have set a benchmark of 16.8%. I would say that is a one off figure when you look at other EDP results around the country. Portsmouth as we said, scored 4%, and the last two parliamentary elections 1% each. By my reckoning, that's an average of less than 6%. That, I would venture to say, represents a more realistic level of support for the EDP. Dartford seems to be a distortion of true EDP support, which I grant you, shows the level of hard work that is put into the area, but it still failed to secure a winning vote. Take Dartford out of the equation and that figure drops to 2%. I would also point out, that when I stood for the EDP, I polled 15.4%, not bad for my first time out for the EDP.

You mention the Hertfordshire branch we created. As you well know, up to that point, I helped create the most vibrant, forward looking branch in the party. But then, as you know, the branch secretary resigned after the appalling drop in membership numbers. You personally then proceeded on a campaign to have me removed as branch chair, so I obliged by resigning. I believe, even now, you have failed to replace me or my colleagues.

It is my sincere conviction that the EDP have gone as far as they are likely to under the present leadership. Your claim that the EDP are English nationalists is debatable. You are a federalist party, plain and simple.

Why are we seeing a string of electoral failures from the EDP? Despite the huge investment in the party, it has achieved nothing. I think the good people of Dartford EDP should now consider replacing you as their leader, and the national party should consider removing the "dream team" at the top if they ever want to get anywhere.

The voting patterns around England would suggest that the EDP are dying a slow and agonising death. Surely even you must recognise this. Surely after leading your local party to continued failure, it's time you stepped down to make way for someone who can turn it around.

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cassie

He's baiting you! Why do you keep rising to his bait?

This is juvenile nonsense which suggests that Kentishman has nothing better to do than come here trying to brag. There are 38 million voters out there, of which some 15 million did vote in the last two general elections, fewer in the 2004 EU elections and local council elections. Now why is he not spending his time trying recruit them? By any reckoning, this person and his judgement are highly questionable, to say the least.

If you ignore threads like this, they fade away much quicker . . . . !





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Richard the Lionheart

I think kentishman is making a complete mockery of the EDP. There are some decent people in the party and they don't deserve to have representation like this.

Have to say, I find his posts amusing, funny, and downright laughable at times! He should resign from politics, I understand they're always looking for good comedians at the comedy club

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claire stone

"Southall where the EDP vote was around the 1% mark, getting beaten by the Monster Raving Loony Party in the process."

That says it all!

Wordsworth

You're all being too harsh on poor old Kentishman, you beasts!

To be fair to KM the leader of Dartford EDs is Mike Tibby, we here in Dartford never see KM in the press or at all as he lives in a lovely gated community with no access by the great unwashed he champions so vigorously.

To be fair he's quite shrewd, three of his local members have recently issued a writ against the local authority, which I would imagine they will lose from reading through the background. If they do in fact lose they could very possibly be liable for some very large costs. He has publicised their initiative on another thread but hasn't put his name to the writ. Macavity

Both he and Tibby are to be honest bonkers, but in dear old Tibby's defence he works bloody hard and can always be seen shuffling around Dartford putting out his propaganda and when he's covered the whole borough he starts all over again. I may think that he is not exactly all there but I doff my cap to him for his work, if not his views.

The recent by-election result for the EDs was always going to happen. They peaked last year, and their assertion that their vote has grown over 1000% was pretty daft seeing as they only put out one candidate previously against twenty last year. Taking this logic on board their vote must have just shrunk by thousands of percent!

Hartlepool

Thanks for those words Wordsworth,as you can see most on here just ignore Kentishspam and his rantings.

Rightly so too.