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Total Votes 1179

Labour 592 50%

Conservative 348 29.5%

English Democrat 198 16.8%

Lib-Dems 22 1%

Ukip 19 1%

Congratulations to Mike and his team for a sterling effort....our time will come!

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Sebastian Melmouth

Bit of a disappointing result for the EDs really wasn't it?

Britannist

This is a very good result for the English Democrats - taking over half the number of votes the Conservative candidate secured.

Dartford (where the vote referred to above took place yesterday) is, of course, very close to London and if the English Democrats were able to get in the May 2008 London Assembly elections just a third of the vote they got yesterday at Dartford they would have a real chance of winning one of the London-wide (proportionally elected) seats on the Assembly.

Delighted to see the europhile Liberal 'Democrats' do so badly .

Sebastian Melmouth

That's one way of looking at it. The other way is that it must be a bit disappointing considering that the EDs were aiming to win (see other thread on the topic) and ended up nearly 400 votes behind the Labour candidate.

Its true that the EDs took over half the number that the Tories got but considering that in the May Elections last year in this ward the English Democrat candidate (Not Mr Tibby, he was losing his seat elsewhere) got 382 votes compared to the same Tory candidate as yesterday who got 428, and actually beat the other 2 Tory candidates then this is a backward step no?

As for the Lib Dems, I am not even sure they put any literature out let alone did any canvassing

Britannist

I can't really comment, Sebastion, unless I see the full May 2007 result in the ward you refer to.

Britannist

Hopefully evidence that they have no organisation and few or no helpers/ volunteers in the area.

As I have written before, there is alot of noise from the europhile Liberal 'Democrats' - but in large parts of the UK (at least 500 constituencies) they are almost non-existent (thank goodness).

roostifer

You obviously don't know the result last year where the ED vote went down from 382 to 198 yesterday, is this an indication of the current ED status where congratulations are offered for a nearly 50% reduction in the vote.

Seriously deluded methinks!

arden forester

Getting 17% of the vote is not bad. OK, he was a fomer councillor but that wasn't for the EDs! UKIP and the LibDems need some head scratching to do in this ward. And the Labour guy got 50%, so he can claim a proper majority of the votes, even if it still means the Abstentionists did better!

The Council - Election results for Princes, 21 February 2008

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Britannist

Not deluded - but it is true that I was not aware of the result last May at Dartford. I would like to know the percentage share of the vote that the English Democrats got in the ward in question at Dartford in May 2007 - less votes than before does not necessarily mean a huge reduction in the party's percentage share of the vote. Turnout has to be taken into account too.

However, I stand by what I wrote earlier, Roostifer, that if the English Democrats got just a third of the vote in the May 2008 London Assembly elections that they got yesterday at Dartford, they would have a very serious chance of winning one of the proportionally-elected seats.

Almost the same applies to the next EU Elections to be held in just 15 months: the English Democrats could take a seat in the large south-east of England EU constituency (which includes Dartford) on less than half the vote share they got at Dartford yesterday.

Almost 17% of the vote for the English Democrats at Dartford yesterday is far from a poor vote share - it is the sort of result many small parties dream of.

I am not a member of the English Democrats, by the way.

Britannist

True. Dartford will vote in June of next year in the EU Elections in which the result will be determined using the proportional list system. Which means that a vote for the English Democrats will carry 'more weight' then than it did in the non-proportional vote at Dartford yesterday.