Smidgey

http://www.capitalreview.co.uk/pdf/k...y_table_12.pdf

Capital Review Online - Providing a wide range of regularly updated economic indicators for Edinburgh, Scotland's capital city

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/internet...s2007_2008.pdf

The City of Edinburgh Council - Council Tax rates 2007/2008

It may take some weeding if you want to look at the specific parts yourself. However, the part I wish to point out is a total GDP of around 9 billion with an anual council budget of 800 million. Obviously some of the tax raised in each area goes to central government to pay for things such defence and the like.

Also, you can clearly see where much of the UK's money goes - look at Glasgow! That is a disgrace.

Furthermore, according to the other figues that Eurosceptic Atlanticist gave, Edinburgh is only above Cornwall (iin the three he gave) in terms of per head spending. Quite low considering it has the 3rd highest per capita GDP in the UK (according the independent statistics and the council statistics given above)

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Frith

Good point. Politics isn't the be all and end all of saving any nation or culture. That is a two edged sword and you need basically to preserve the people before you have an "English" nation to save. Without them you are just a group practising a set of adopted behaviours and beliefs and these soon run out of steam and either cease, revert to a previous type or change beyond recognition. Heritage is a complex largely unbroken line for the kind of conservationist who believes in the link between what people are and what people do.

Smidgey

Cassie, the original poster mentioned Edinburgh, I was merely responding. It was even in the title of the thread - it could hardly be less relevant.

Furthermore, I think you will find that it was actually the original poster who mentioned Scotland first, you were the second to do so. So why quote me and bring it up?

You mentioned Scotland, not me. Do you get some sort of pleasure from doing so?

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arden forester

I think the answer is YES! Smidgey, just responding can be cause for a spot of bother!

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cassie

For those unable or unwilling to concentrate, this thread is essentially about the GLA Elections this year.

Yes, it did mention that township called Edinburgh by way of comparison. Even so, that is not a signal, an excuse for Scots to seek to divert the whole thread in the way you have with wholesale comparisons about the rights or wrongs of the comparison!

I merely drew attention to the propensity of Scots (ie YOU!) to hog as many threads as possible as I have done on other occasions. Clearly I touched a raw nerve.

The theme was standing (ie sticking up) for London, not "other parts of the UK including Scotland"! Geddit!

Is your inferiority complex so great that you have to be so humourlessly literal? You know what to do if you don't like my pointing out your Scottish vice of constant Caledonian promotion.

cassie

Now you've proved you don't know what you're talking about. You are confusing yourself with different descriptions of the same thing!

If you dispute what I'm saying, perhaps you'd care to give a definition of the word 'politics'?

Frith

It would be much more interesting if someone could give a definition of the word "cassie".

On the subject of Smidgey, why must this poster be insulted because he is Scots? He is the least likely self-promoting egotist of all. I can often well see why the Scots want independence.

Englishman does know what he is talking about. His concentration on the salvation of a people and culture by more than one means is a tactic, and often worthy aspiration, of many in the Anglo-Saxon movements. And there is more than one kind of Anglo-Saxon activist and the one is no more worthy than the other in the struggle for freedom and independence.

Smidgey

It was a one liner and Scotland never once came into my mind. In fact, I completely agree that Scotland takes more than it makes - that was never my point. My point was that Edinburgh was mentioned, and since the thread was on the topic of cities, not central governments, I felt that my statement was in order. This had nothing to do with Scotland and the mere fact that Edinburgh happened to be the capital of Scotland was irrelevant to my posting. It is you who is reading between the lines and creating imaginary boogeymen - Rudy Guiliani must be a friend of yours.

Again, boogeymen. If you are following my posts so intently, surely you must have read my opinion on nationalism?

Yes, it was about the city of London, which is why I stuck to cities and never mentioned Scotland - stop putting words into my mouth.

I couldn't care what you say about Scotland, doesn't affect me one iota, so long as Edinburgh is doing well and I can get a good job and try to promote liberty in the UK, what Scotland is or does doesn't really matter.

My problem is concerning you putting words into my mouth, which I'm sure the vast majority of people on this board would realise has nothing to do with a supposed 'inferiority complex' but is merely a response to your downright rude manners.

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cassie

This thread is about the GLA Elections!

Have you nothing useful or informative or constructive to say about that subject?

If you want to talk about this Anglo Saxon jiggery-pokery, why don't you start another thread and see how far you get with that instead of high-jacking this one?

Smidgey

Thank you for that compliment.

Although, I don't know if its warranted, everyone is egotistical are they not, at least to an extent?

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