Thread: New English Nationalist Party

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

I'm not convinced a party can be both pro-UK and pro-England. We believe in the supremacy of an English parliament, not the halfway house called devolution. Our view is that England should have a government of the people, for the people, by the people. A cliche yes, but a sincere belief. We reject the concept of politicans from elsewhere in the UK dictating terms to the people of England. We reject the idea of a Scottish Prime Minister and a Scottish Chancellor despatching English troops off to foreign lands to fight their wars of conquest. We reject the idea of a Scottish Prime Minister flooding England with unlimited immigration. We reject the idea of a Scottish Chancellor robbing pension funds of around £80 billion from the people of England. A devolved government of England would not be able to solve any of these problems, and that is why we think England should have control of her own affairs. Whichever way you cut it, the UK is doing a bad job of running England.

I'm a general purpose non-purist libertarian in dealings with people outside of my folk group. When it comes to England and the English, I'm an English nationalist. If you get a party going that will institute the sovereign status of our homeland and that can stay together without in-fighting, you may have a chance to rescue one of the world's greatest nations. We are made of sterner stuff than to stand down for anyone at all, be this in a turban or a kilt.

After thinking about it for a long time, I think England needs to declare her independence from the socialist python that is suffocating her and from the even more powerful coils of the EU. More people feel this way every day. It's a kind of domino effect. England needs to be free.

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Prime Minister.......unlimited immigration.

Brown wants as much immigration as possible to England so as to weaken the identity of England.

Labour is an anti-English party and any reform of Blair's botched devolution of 1999 (in order to give England equality with Scotland within the UK) can only come about first by removing this Labour shower from power at Westminster.

Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

We believe .....Our view is that.....We reject.......We reject........We reject the idea.....

Who is 'we' Richard? You have used the term quite a bit in your posting without actually saying who 'we' are and who you are writing on behalf of.

Is your usage of the word 'we' a reference to a political party or some other campaigning group?

I wonder if you might be kind enough to let us know the answer to this please.

Originally Posted by SilverFalcon

....the even more powerful coils of the EU. England needs to be free.

The whole of the UK needs to be free from the EU. I was pleased that the eurosceptic DUP party of Dr. Paisley voted against the EU (Amending) Bill (EU Constitution) in the Commons earlier this week.

England can get equality with Scotland within the Union of the UK - but to do, the first step must be to get this anti-English Labour shower out of power at Westminster.

The EU wants to break up the UK - a divided Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Ulster) suits the EU which operates on the basis of 'divide and rule'. The weaker the UK is the easier it is for the EU to push us all around in these islands of ours.

Bang on right mate.

Scientists do agree that global Warming is happening, BUT they do not all agree that it is man made and that man can have any effect on it.

Ive seen enough evidence to inform me that man cannot effect climate change, its ust nature taking its course.

Politicians are using it for ulterior motives, mainly to tax us.

They are now finding a way to tax our fresh air! and the there is an alarming amount of brainwashed sheepwalking public who are having it!!!!?????

Its a good job some of us are thinking outside the box!

Originally Posted by Britannist

True - the more UKIP talk about immigration (i.e. opposing it) the more votes the party will get. It is as simple as that.

And saying things against the global warming lobby (as some in UKIP have admirably been doing of late) will also do the party no harm at all in the ballot box. I think some people are starting to get very bored indeed about hearing stuff about (alleged) 'climate change') every day on the media. We all know that some politicians are trying to highlight this issue so they have an excuse to dig into our pockets more.

Originally Posted by Britannist

The whole of the UK needs to be free from the EU. I was pleased that the eurosceptic DUP party of Dr. Paisley voted against the EU (Amending) Bill (EU Constitution) in the Commons earlier this week.

England can get equality with Scotland within the Union of the UK - but to do, the first step must be to get this anti-English Labour shower out of power at Westminster.

The EU wants to break up the UK - a divided Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Ulster) suits the EU which operates on the basis of 'divide and rule'. The weaker the UK is the easier it is for the EU to push us all around in these islands of ours.

Iceland is an island. It has a high standard of living, is not overpopulated and has a high literacy rate. The people are similar to the ethnic groups in England (Germanic and Celtic). If they can do it on a piece of freezing, treeless ice then England can do it.

Pros and cons for Iceland here:

Iceland and the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What they fail to recognise (because that would be politically incorrect) is the ethnic issue that is vital to any European country's survival as a European country, sovereign or otherwise. Sovereignty is best and getting involved with the EU invariably means getting involved in its painfully restrictive laws and regulations. If Iceland doesn't want to become a floating prison shaped like an ice cube it should take note of the importance of having its ethnic base intact and its borders closed to freeloaders and people who are completely different from its heritage culture.

Ireland made the mistake of getting all excited about freedom from its hated oppressor and then slipping the noose of EU membership round its emerald neck before realising the dangerous liaison could spell the end of its victory flight to the Summerlands. Now there are people in Ireland who want to cut the noose of the EU. Good for them. Cut it as soon as you can, lovely swans of Lir, and fly free.

I think Independence for England is a vote winner for the English, but I also have to agree with most of what you say here.

But sadly feel that coruption from New Labour will also make sure that the BNP don't get any where too significant, they have already been caught fiddling the votes in Birmingham a few years ago, and we are talking about a party who has sent its own soldiers to an ilegal war and killed many of our own soldiers doing so.
I wouldn't put anything past this New Labour government, coruption wise.

We all have to start leaving politics behind, and start thinking out of the box.

Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Outside this fevered little clique of wannabees nobody is interested in setting up yet another gasworks.

People are worried about immigration, the NHS, crime, even the EU. They couldn't give a damn about this rubbish.

All these pitiful little PC parties mince around the big issue of immigration like a pack of gay mime artists. They're a total waste of space.

And we know that every one of them is after a well-paid job in their precious 'English Parliament'. The hilarious fact is that with PR something like the BNP will clean up the dissident vote and they will be left high and dry.

Originally Posted by Britannist

England should have both her own national legislature (giving her equality with Scotland within the UK) whilst also be the largest part of the UK national Parliament (as she is now).

That's also the English Democrat view too. People should be able to have the choice whether or not they wish to British, or English, Scottish or Welsh.
I see myself as English, certainly not British. Any old Tom, Dick and Abdul can be British these days. It is interesting you use the term UK national parliament. I would point out that the UK is not a nation. It is a union of nations. The UK is in quite a few ways akin to the EU. I believe England would be better off out of both unions.

I honestly dont think this new English nationalist party will get anywhere.they have no money and in my opinion NO CHANCE