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    So to go back to the dreaded EU army. Let's suppose they send their troops into Scotland - after all, the highlands would be a good place for military exercises. Now to be a security threat, they have to be prepared to wage war. What reason are they going to give for an invasion of England? That we have weapons of mass destruction? Will they seek a UN resolution, and if that fails, invade anyway?

    So then they invade. To take over the government in London they're going to have to fight tooth and nail through the whole of England. It will be bloody, and there is no guarantee of victory.

    But let's assume England surrenders. They're now an army of occupation, but unfortunately for them a number of English aren't going to take it. Week after week 'terrorist' attacks are waged on their army. What are they going to do about it? Massacre loads of civilians while the whole world watches? And will they endure this week after week, year after year?

    And do you think the Europeans, who have been totally non-existent in Iraq and Afghanistan, are going to conquer a nation like England by force?

    DREAM ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverFalcon View Post
    Okay, cassie, I have had about as much of your insulting and demeaning attitude and behaviour as any English person can be expected to tolerate (and they do expect us to be so extremely tolerant, don't they?) But we have our limits and I have finally reached mine with regard to you.

    I'm only going to say this to you once more: I am English, I am not an "emigre", I was born out of the country. I am not "facetious". I have not "chosen to live" among any people. If I had any choice I would choose to live among my own English. I have chosen instead, as I cannot get to England and have not been able to get there for many years, to support them and indeed to help them any way I can in honour of my English father and my English grandparents (who were born in Norfolk).

    Kindly desist from speaking to me on this forum as though I were some sort of flotsam.

    Anyone who supports your attitude also insults me. But then Unionists are so terrified of what they think is the anti-Christ posing as the EU that they would support dung dressed as dinner if it would only join their crusade. Fear of atheists isn't my problem. I am here, as are many other English folk from around the world, because I will stand with them against the regionalisation of my homeland.

    Still, I accept and acknowledge the arguments and opinions of others who want a Union. That is their choice. I am not, however willing to continue to be treated like a Charlie by you. Allowing mud to stick to you is not very English.

    Andrew, please let me know when you have something going. Until then, farewell and good hunting. Goodbye from this "kid".
    Oh dear! Wasn't I sufficiently deferential in my postings O Brown Owl?

    Here's one of your irrelevant postings . . . irrelevant to England's plight just now that is:

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverFalcon View Post
    Ironically, Richard the Lionheart was essentially French, spoke little English, was connected to a family was frogs and spent something like 9 years in England. He was a Crusader and spent most of his time fighting foreign wars. How English is this monarch in comparison with genuine English patriots of modern day England? If you alienate the BNP/UKIP/EDP factions because they aren't English enough in their interest in national coalition or federation, how will they reconcile this with the reality of a basically French Monarch of England famous for external religious wars?

    Just asking ...
    Now remind me, who was it who posted this saccharine piece:
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverFalcon View Post
    Well now, let's put this nicely so all the grown ups can understand. Anyone who wants to call us "kids" is welcome to do so. Anyone telling us to get real is welcome to do so. Anyone wanting to eat yogurt at 3 in the morning is welcome to do so. Because we are so keen and so juvenile and so pumped up and so whimsical we just don't care any more. Those of us who are grown ups are quite excited as well. We are going to a dance and no one is going to stop us.
    Presumably you were in diplomatic mode when you composed the words: "Well now, let's put this nicely so all the grown ups can understand."?

    It seems we have yet another hero who can dish it out, but can't take it!

    I make no apologies for taking issue with you because, not only do you post diverting irrelevancies, you advocate divisive positions.
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverFalcon View Post
    England needs a national party that is devoid of neo nazis, British Israelites, liberal extremists, and egotists. The reason why there are so many English parties is possibly because each of these groups has a party of its own, and an Emperor to go with it. England needs a party of her own. For the English people, all of them, not just a particular political flavour or religion. It has the worst of the immigration and is the most reviled by the new left. She's in trouble, she is our Mother Country and she needs us. If anyone can come up with a half decent English party that has the formula for success I'll join it from here. I've experienced the alternatives and they are too angry within ever to grow or too specifically focused on non-English aspects to attract anything but circles of supporters not of England but of some non-mainstream ideology. They have been brave attempts, as are all new parties in every sphere that have moved out to make a stand. It's just that their stand hasn't stood.

    The English need a party that is unwaveringly for England and the English before any external ideology can interfere with this cause.

    Please let us know when you have set it up.
    As I said, all we want is "a separate parliament for the people of England, not just for the English (however you define that) but for all the people of England." I don't want this simple objective overlaid and muddled with your distorted mumbo jumbo about "neo nazis, British Israelites, liberal extremists, and egotists" especially as you fall into at least one of those categories!

    I doubt that you would say many of the things you've posted here if you were actually stood just six feet away from me! In case you haven't noticed, you've encountered someone who is totally unimpressed with your tantrums. So, take your girlie indignation and stick it rid in the middle of your prejudices.

    For the record, I am open minded on the subject of whether the UK should continue or not and, if so, the form it takes. Here, I have two concerns: (1) that it should not divide support for an England Parliament whether within or without the UK; and (2) that when these issues are addressed, they are informed by the collective opinions of voters, especially those in England.

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    I live in the world of England where the majorety ethnic group are the English of Anglo-Saxon blood line.
    The ethnic English.

    We don't need this all inclusive 'ALL' the people of England nonsense,
    relying on non English votes, who's talking about votes??? not me! I don't want any more politics dividing the English and not representing the ethnic English and ignoring the ethnic English.
    Politics has done f*** all for the ethnic English and looks like it never will do!

    Cut the PC ****, the ethnic English are still the majorety in England,
    and we should not ignore our own people,
    we just need to educate them on who they are and give them their confidence back, in the hope of an Anglo-Saxon reserrection!

    ( I don't mean to offend you here, I am just a passionate ethnic Englishman of Anglo-Saxon blood line, wanting to help my people)

    If English nationalist political parties continue to exist, then I feel that we need an English nationalsit party that puts first the ethnic English, with a sympathetic ear for the civic English, NOT the other way around.


    Quote Originally Posted by cassie View Post
    I often wonder what world you people live in!

    As far as I am aware, the English Democrats Party was started with the prime objective of establishing a separate parliament for the people of England, not just for the English (however you define that) but for all the people of England.

    To achieve this, maximum support amongst voters in England is needed ~ any voters, English voters, whatever!

    Opponents and antagonists started raising irrelevant issues such as 'How do you define Englishness?' Funny, no one asked how one defined Scottishness or Welshness in order to establish THEIR assemblies! Funny how being a Welsh or Scottish nationalist is generally regarded as being 'left wing' but English nationalists are somehow 'right wing' ~ y'know akin to being facists.

    Of course any attempts to create such an institution will attract English people and be centred on such people, but it should not (must not) be to the exclusion of other people. Moreover, it is quite right for the movement to be based on English culture, however that is perceived, and for it to predominate, but not to the exclusion of anything else.

    By and large, references to what happened centuries ago are not relevant to the EDP's primary objective, which quite simply is the establishment of a separate parliament & executive in England with no less power than that in Scotland and Wales!

    The more we English focus on Englishness, the more we will alienate support in England from other quarters. The sad thing is that, in my opinion, we do not need to concentrate on Englishness, because our opponents will do that for us; they want to sidetrack us down that dead-end route to divert us from obtaining our own parliament.

    Our opponents are keenly aware that our campaign and an English Parliament will tend to bring Englishness, culture & customs to the fore. That is what they are afraid of. They want us to promote those things rather than an English Parliament because that will maximise opposition from those who feel excluded. Our opponents know that once a separate English Parliament is established, electors will look at candidates for elective office in more searching ways than they do now, and individuals such as Malcolm Rifkind, Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Ian McCartney to name but a few, will find it much more difficult to be accepted as candidates in England.

    So, before we go much further with this whimsical 'King Arthur & the Knights of the Round Table' stuff, think on. If you act and talk vaingloriously like kids, you'll get treated like kids and, ultimately, that means no national parliament for England!

    To coin a phrase ~ GET REAL!


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    Why do you wish she was standing 6 feet away Cassie, would you beat her up? I seem to recall that you were recently thrown our or left a party in a huff. I hope it was not for beating girls up.
    It was probably because of a personality disorder and a compulsion to be rude to people. will your English Parliament be encouraging English good manners among the culture and customs you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david H View Post
    Why do you wish she was standing 6 feet away Cassie, would you beat her up? I seem to recall that you were recently thrown our or left a party in a huff. I hope it was not for beating girls up.
    It was probably because of a personality disorder and a compulsion to be rude to people. will your English Parliament be encouraging English good manners among the culture and customs you speak of?
    Have the good manners to get the facts before making a fool of yourself son!

    How do you know that she is a she?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishman View Post
    I live in the world of England where the majorety ethnic group are the English of Anglo-Saxon blood line.
    The ethnic English.

    We don't need this all inclusive 'ALL' the people of England nonsense,
    relying on non English votes, who's talking about votes??? not me! I don't want any more politics dividing the English and not representing the ethnic English and ignoring the ethnic English.
    Politics has done f*** all for the ethnic English and looks like it never will do!

    Cut the PC ****, the ethnic English are still the majority in England,
    and we should not ignore our own people,
    we just need to educate them on who they are and give them their confidence back, in the hope of an Anglo-Saxon resurrection!

    ( I don't mean to offend you here, I am just a passionate ethnic Englishman of Anglo-Saxon blood line, wanting to help my people)

    If English nationalist political parties continue to exist, then I feel that we need an English nationalist party that puts first the ethnic English, with a sympathetic ear for the civic English, NOT the other way around.
    I want a separate Parliament and Executive for England. It's is as simple as that!

    When we have a separate English Parliament, we can take it from there.

    What exactly do you want? More importantly, how are you going to get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    So you think an EU invasion of England is possible???
    We have been invaded before. We have armed forces to defend ourselves - the fact that there are armed forces is obviously because a future external military threat to us cannot be ruled out.

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    Default External power or group of nations, invade, security, military, England, UK

    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    Now you don't think they would invade!
    I have never actually said a particular external power or group of nations would invade. I wrote the possibility exists - it has happened before.

    I also wrote that all countries of the world examine the security and military implications of what 'the neighbours' are doing.

    And I said that the security and military implications to England should be considered as regards the scenario of a part of Great Britain leaving the UK.

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    Default Military powers, cotinental part of EU, NATO, EU military superpower, England

    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    So some will stay in Nato? And the Euro-Army? Not quite the monolithic beast you started to build then!
    The largest military powers in the continental part of the EU (France, Germany, Italy and Spain) are key parts of the EU military now under construction which the French, Belgians and others want to replace NATO with as far as western europe is concerned.

    You appear to be trying to play down the dangers of a nuclear-armed EU military superpower emerging 21 miles from England across the English Channel.

    Do you care about England or not?

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    Default Dr. Richard North, Christopher Booker, EU military wing, issue, question

    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    Not biased then, your experts?
    Dr. Richard North and Christopher Booker (of the Sunday Telegraph) have spent years studying plans and decisions made regarding the EU military wing now under construction. No disrespect meant to you with this question but - I take it you have been following the issue too for as long, Anglo-Staffs, and know all about every aspect of it?

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