Thread: New English Nationalist Party

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

I imagine that England would stay in the rump of NATO...

"Imagine" - England's security depends more on imagining. If England quits the UK and EU and Scotland stayed in the EU it (Scotland) would become a part of the EU military which (as I have already pointed out in this thread) many in the ruling 'elite' of the EU want to replace the european wing of NATO with.

The future plans of most of the founder member states of the EEC/EU do not include NATO.

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

Scotland Wales or the EU would find any cause or benefit in invading England.

I never suggested any of the above would invade England. I wrote that if Scotland and/or Wales quit the UK and stayed in the EU they would become a part of the EU military wing and that this could lead to european continental troops being stationed in a part of the island of Great Britain for the first time in about a thousand years.

My point is that there are security implications and military implications too if the UK partly or wholly dissolved.

I cannot understand why some anti-UK English campaigners get all worked up when I make such a reasonable observation.

The governments of all the nations of the world examine the security implications of what 'the neighbours' do all the time.

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

Even if, as Britannist paints, the evil EU leaders are building an EU military force to project their will....

There is no "if" about it. The EU military wing is now under construction. This is accepted by military analysts and by the miitary expert and anti-EU campaigner Dr. Richard North as well as by the Sunday Telegraph's Mr. Christopher Booker.

The fact that some people who claim to be pro-England have no idea at all of what the EU is up to is yet more disappointing evidence that some in the pro-England movement may not regard the dangers of the EU threat to our sovereignty as their number one priority.

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

Even if, as Britannist paints, the evil EU leaders are building an EU military force to project their will. I do not think that they would see support for Scotland, Wales or both as remotely worth the risk of an English Nuclear missile on Paris, Berlin, Rome, Riga etc. We do have more missiles that there are European capitals.

There is nothing in the above quote about my valid point that if England quit the UK, Scotland and/or Wales would have the legal right to do as they wished regarding military matters and that they could, if they wanted to, allow troops in from another power. Something which would have security implications for England.

Whatever some anti-UK people who claim to be English have written in this thread - the simple fact is that those individuals cannot deny my point that if England quit the UK it would have no control at all over what the governments of Scotland and Wales did as regards military matters.

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

Does Britannist want the whole of the UK out of the EU?

Yes - I want all of the UK out of the EU. I thought that was pretty obvious from my postings to this forum.

I am anti-EU. What do think I want - only half of the UK out of the EU?

I want the whole of our nation - the UK - out of the EU.

I want all nations out of the EU. I don't believe in the EU. I don't want the EU to exist.

Originally Posted by SilverFalcon

....in honour of my English father and my English grandparents (who were born in Norfolk)....

I have nothing but admiration for your above words, Silver Falcon . Well done for remaining interested in your English homeland from your overseas location.

And Norfolk is a wonderful county .

Originally Posted by Britannist

What you mean is that you think that land invasions only happen outside Great Britain (i.e. european continent, 20th century).

What I am writing is that it is possible (however unlikely some may think) for the government of an independent Scotland or Wales to let troops from the EU military force set up a base on their land.

And, if that were to happen, it would have security and strategic implications for England.

So you think an EU invasion of England is possible???

Originally Posted by Britannist

I never suggested any of the above would invade England. I wrote that if Scotland and/or Wales quit the UK and stayed in the EU they would become a part of the EU military wing and that this could lead to european continental troops being stationed in a part of the island of Great Britain for the first time in about a thousand years.

My point is that there are security implications and military implications too if the UK partly or wholly dissolved.

I cannot understand why some anti-UK English campaigners get all worked up when I make such a reasonable observation.

The governments of all the nations of the world examine the security implications of what 'the neighbours' do all the time.

Now you don't think they would invade!