Fathers 4 Justice founder to enter Mayoral race

Ea of Dune · 14-01-2008, 01:58 PM

To be fair Gary's website did at one point say he was considering standing for the Mayor position so send him Emails to persuade him, so was it ever set in stone?

Ea of dune

arden forester · 14-01-2008, 02:50 PM

He has his own promotional site and there was one You are being redirected to tGarry for mayor which is now defunct. So he obviously thought he was the candidate, others thought he was the candidate, and he was promoted as the candidate!

SponPlague · 16-01-2008, 11:41 AM

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He expects to launch his campaign on 14 February and stand for the English Democrats, who campaign for an English parliament because they believe that England loses out to Scotland in terms of public funding.

Now this is interesting: Take a look at the following quote from Fibs about Scotland on the BBC - Telegraph

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The first report sought to perpetuate that old myth that we Scots are heavily subsidised by English taxpayers and regurgitated the fact that the "average" Scot gets more spent on him or her than their English counterparts.

The report, designed we must assume primarily for English consumption, ignored totally the fact - explained at length in this and other newspapers some time ago - that if per capita spending in the English regions is examined, then Scotland comes out just ahead of both the North East and North West of England and actually below the total for London.

True, there was a fig leaf at the end of the report about how police spending in Scotland was less than in England, but by then the old lie had been reinforced - the Scots are subsidy junkies, pure and simple.

Later, in the "Scotland-only" part of the programme Professor Iain MacLean, of Oxford University, provided a bit of balance, making the point that different parts of England got differing amounts of subsidy from central government.

And he said if the current system of allocating resources to the British regions was changed to one based on need, then Scotland would indeed probably receive less and some English regions more. But, importantly, London and the English East Midlands would also be among the losers.

Basically, it's saying that if Scotland's subsidy gets redistributed, London would lose out too: So how would an ED London mayoral candidate spin this?

cassie · 16-01-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SponPlague

Now this is interesting: Take a look at the following quote from Fibs about Scotland on the BBC - Telegraph

Basically, it's saying that if Scotland's subsidy gets redistributed, London would lose out too: So how would an ED London mayoral candidate spin this?

Perceptive English people are accustomed to being lectured by anyone bar their own; the BBC ensures this as evidenced by the plethora of non-English accents to be heard.

Indeed, I have yet to hear or to see a discussion about England and her place in the UK and EU mounted by any of the broadcasters in which the English have even parity of representation and which, taking account of the number of English as a ratio of others in the UK, would (if achieved) still amount to English under-representation! No, the English are usually out-numbered and I have frequently heard discussions between Scots about England in which there was not one Englishman such is the arrogance, bad manners and unfairness of the Scottish mafia in control of British (English) affairs!

This article is yet another of the countless pieces emanating from Caledonia! Who really cares what this burbling minority thinks?

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A66 · 16-01-2008, 02:17 PM

To use a very popular political word at the moment, the Unionist vote splitting ED’s should re-name themselves the English Dithering Party. Like Gordon Brown, they cant answer a question!

SponPlague · 16-01-2008, 05:33 PM

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Professor Iain MacLean, of Oxford University, provided a bit of balance, making the point that different parts of England got differing amounts of subsidy from central government.

And he said if the current system of allocating resources to the British regions was changed to one based on need, then Scotland would indeed probably receive less and some English regions more. But, importantly, London and the English East Midlands would also be among the losers.

Cassie: Are you saying this is wrong? That all English regions would be winners, including London?

cassie · 16-01-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SponPlague

Cassie: Are you saying this is wrong? That all English regions would be winners, including London?

No! It is a selective and inconsistent account.

Funny how so many Scots want North Britain to be treated as a nation rather than a region but then, inconsistently, go on to treat England differently! I guess that's because Scotland is mainly Edinburgh+Glasgow!

I don't think we need any instruction from Alan Cochrane and his ilk, thank you!

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SponPlague · 16-01-2008, 07:52 PM

It's more likely because EU NUTS maps show Britain divided into regions - and Scotland counts as a region rather than a country, for the purposes of our EU masters and their Westminster treasonous minions...

Englander 1 · 16-01-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by A66

To use a very popular political word at the moment, the Unionist vote splitting ED’s should re-name themselves the English Dithering Party. Like Gordon Brown, they cant answer a question!

You seem to continually say the same things A66..are the rudderless B8P becoming worried?

cassie · 17-01-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SponPlague

It's more likely because EU NUTS maps show Britain divided into regions - and Scotland counts as a region rather than a country, for the purposes of our EU masters and their Westminster treasonous minions...

Speculate as much as you like, it is inconsistent and dishonest to talk in one breath about 'Scottish' and 'English', and in the next breath compare the whole of the North Britain region with parts of England. These are two different approaches!

To then try and attire one's critique in some kind of virtue by asserting (without any accompanying proof) that parts of England would automatically lose out in a re-arrangement of financing, is Cochrane scraping the Scottish nationalist barrel.

The piece has the title " Fibs about Scotland on the BBC" ~ remember?

Cochrane's article states: "The first report sought to perpetuate that old myth that we Scots are heavily subsidised by English taxpayers and regurgitated the fact that the "average" Scot gets more spent on him or her than their English counterparts." Here, 'the average Scot' is to be compared with 'English counterparts' ie 'the average Englishman'! Are we to take it that 'the average Scot' embraces the whole of Scotland, whilst 'the average Englishman' may be any part or parts of England but not the whole of England when expedient to make a dubious claim? If there is any fibbing, it is in Cochrane's highly partisan and unfairly inconsistent approach!

Do I really need to go on?

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Ea of Dune Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 1,001	To be fair Gary's website did at one point say he was considering standing for the Mayor position so send him Emails to persuade him, so was it ever set in stone? Ea of dune

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SponPlague Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 1,957	It's more likely because EU NUTS maps show Britain divided into regions - and Scotland counts as a region rather than a country, for the purposes of our EU masters and their Westminster treasonous minions...