Besoeker

Even with that qualification I think the article is wrong.
I don't know where the Mail got its figures from but, by my calculations, the population density in Netherlands now is greater than the density forecast for England in 2031.

The land area of Netherlands is 33,883sq km and population is about 16.6 million. That is around 490 people per sq km.

NoMoreEUSSR

The land area of the Netherlands is around 41.000 km², but that figure may include reclaimed land.

Popeye

What about San Marino - the oldest democratic republic in Europe and not in the EU. You have to pay to have your passport stamped! Amazingly it is only 1707 in San Marino yet they have cars and TV. Now that's what I call doing well outside the EU.

Besoeker

Total area 41,526 km²
Land 33,883 km²
Water 7,643 km²

cassie

Heaven forfend that anything essentially important concerning England should not be subjected to nit picking by minorities!

The main facts seem to be that, in the EU, England (as distinct from the UK) has the fourth largest population and, with an area of 130,410 sq km (50,352 sq miles), is ninth largest! Here's a link: Demographics of the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and another: England - MSN Encarta

If Scotland took a proportionate share of the population, it would have some 35 million people instead of the current paltry 5 million which, given that England only accounts for some 57% of UK territory, reduces the UK's average population density.

90%+ of the projected future population increases will be in England! Why on earth the English have not cottoned on to the fact that the three big Brit parties dominated by Scots and others do not care a hoot just defeats me. We take too much on trust, and our trust is persistently abused.

Little Englander (sour)

Most, I suspect, are **** taking Scots, or Welsh or even N. Irish.

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Besoeker

Interesting arithmetic there, though I see what you are saying.
But there isn’t uniformity of population distribution in different parts of England either for various geographical and historical reasons. The same applies to Scotland of course and obviously UK as a whole.

Westcountryman

Cassie, if you followed that plan through you'd be forcing a lot of English people to live in Scotland and Wales. The majority of people who live in England are English.

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cassie

You are correct, there is not! There is uneven distribution within each and all the UK's component parts. Is not Scotland's population predominantly in Edinburgh and Glasgow, Wales' in Cardiff, and NI's in Belfast? Why, even more than 25% of Ireland's is in Dublin!

Many Scots want Scotland to be treated as a 'nation', but how frequently Scots also seek to deal with England on a piecemeal basis. It is this kind of double standard that has deprived the much larger England and the more numerous English of equal and fair treatment.

cassie

I would not 'force' any English citizens to live in Scotland or Wales! I merely made an observation about the disparity.

However, an over-representative number of Scots in the British Parliament are apparently happy to preside over the English being forced to endure huge numbers of foreign born people coming to live amongst us, take our employment and lower wage rates.

I have come to the conclusion that the English would be best represented by the English. However, ousting our enemies (like getting out of the EU) is extremely difficult with them having control of the levers of power and the main means of communication!