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Old 19-12-2007, 06:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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English Parliament Polls over 60%

In an ICM poll for The Sunday Telegraph on 26 November 2006 68% of the (potential) English voters, who were polled, were in favour of an English Parliament.

In a joint BBC and Opinion Research Business (ORB) poll in January 2007 for the BBC's Newsnight programme, 61% of those in England thought that an English Parliament should be established.

A You Gov Poll on 8 February 2007 showed 69% in favour of an English Parliament

An ICM poll for the Campiagn for an English Parliament (CEP) on 19 April 2007 showed 67% in favour of an English Parliament.

And there's more ......................................
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Old 19-12-2007, 06:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ED website says,"over 60% of the English Population want an English Parliament".

That's about 30,000,000 English you're talking about there,quite a lot eh?

Suggest you get a bit of professionalism into your sites presentation if you want become a real political threat to anyone.
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Old 20-12-2007, 12:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You are not wrong.

The party is slowly growing, we expect a "step change" in May 2008
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I loathe the labour Party but lord falconer is right an English Parliament would break the UK up that should please you Kentishman and those in the EDP.
Bearing in mind that three separate parliaments/assemblies already operate in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, would you explain how that works please?

Incidentally, do you regard yourself first and foremost as English?
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No I do not regard myself as English first and foremost like the EDP say English first British second.I am British and a Unionist an English Parliament would create even more friction.and even more instability eventually leading to the break up of the UK.
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No I do not regard myself as English first and foremost like the EDP say English first British second.I am British and a Unionist an English Parliament would create even more friction.and even more instability eventually leading to the break up of the UK.
HMMmm! You must be amongst the very few who do not regard themselves as having more than one layer of identity. Indeed, you are very coy about your origins, like so many who wish to undermine England and the English. Being undoubtedly English, I do not need to resort to such subterfuges and freely declare my interest. I am first and foremost English and then British.

Further, I do not want Britain to continue to exist at the expense of the identity and the democratic rights of the English! I believe that support for this opinion is increasing in England.

Nowadays anyone can be 'British' and are, when it suits them! It is a hugely devalued identity compared with what it once was.

It is too easy to assert that an English Parliament would create even more friction and even more instability! Indeed, were I to be unkind, I would that it is facile! There are a number here who, being no less Unionist than you claim to be, accept that a separate parliament and executive in England can exist within the UK.

I want no fewer rights to self determination than those dished out to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales by anti-English Brits who now deny them to the people of England, both English and British alike.

So, if your notion of British citizenship is to deny me my identity as an Englishman and to treat me as a third class British citizen because I am English, you know what you can do with it!
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I am English and very proud of it but also very proud to be British.I beleive in the United kingdom.Nationalism is an agenda for division them and us and for an agenda that millions of us oppose.
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A UKIP MEP was also invited to our September 2007 Conference. (He accepted and came along)
Who was the UKIP MEP please, Kentishman? I asked you this before recently in this forum - but you failed to answer my question.

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....our September 2007 Conference.
The decision to invite a member of the anti-UK europhile Scottish so-called 'National' Party (SNP) to attend and speak to the English Democrat (ED) 2007 Conference was a mistake which makes it more difficult for those of us trying to forge co-operation links between UKIP and the English Democrat Party.

UKIP members are UK Unionists of one kind or another and asking someone from the obsessively pro-EU SNP (an MP tipped by some to be a future leader of the SNP) to speak to the ED membership has angered UKIP people at this time when many of us want UKIP and the ED parties to work together to avoid splitting the pro-England and anti-EU vote in next May's London Assembly elections.

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I am British and a Unionist an English Parliament would create even more friction.and even more instability eventually leading to the break up of the UK.
Would it? I (a committed UK Unionist) take the view that the absence of a national legislature for England within the UK could lead to the "break up of the UK."

UKIP proposes that the rival Parliament in Edinburgh be abolished with its duties and responsibilities handed to MPs who would meet regularly in different parts of Scotland to deliberate on internal Scottish matters (with English constituency MPs in the Commons dealing with specifically English issues during their absence).

I fail to see how such a system/arrangement would "eventually lead to the break up of the UK." Indeed, the UKIP policy would result in a direct link being created between the devolved structures and the National Parliament of the UK (i.e. MPs would be members of both).

I would also add that failure to deal with the "English Question" (i.e. the unfair way England is treated in the UK since devolution - Scotland having her own national legislature but England not having one) will lead to the Union of the UK losing support in England (already opinion polls show that about a third of the population of England - 17 million people - want England out of the UK).

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