Pro Union Parties must bring down salmond

reg · 19-12-2007, 02:55 PM

With alex salmond now in poll position in scotland and the English Democrats supporting him and the SNP.The Pro Union Parties in Scotland must now join forces like they should have done before in bringing the SNP down they should of never of let him form a goverment in the first place and should of used there votes to stop him.comments please we must act now before its to late

rjt · 19-12-2007, 02:58 PM

I dont know whetehr the ED party are supporting him or not but I agree, there is a clear Pro Union Majority in that parlaiment and it is about time it made its voice heard.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 19-12-2007, 03:19 PM

As I predicted some time ago, the next ideological debate in the UK, will be Unionism v Nationalism.

Left v Right is a thing of the past !

reg · 19-12-2007, 03:29 PM

There you have it from the horses mouth.A leading EDP figure as he has done in the past saying its Nationalists v Unionists.There you have it RJT the EDP SNP and plaid cmyru.THERE AGENDA TO DESTROY THE UNION That indeed confirms the EDP support the SNP why would they share platforms with them.and post SNP properganda on here because there real intention is to destroy the Union along with there Nationalist freinds. I wish people would wise up and catch themselves on to the real EDP agenda.We as Pro Union People must face up to the SNP and EDP and expose them.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 19-12-2007, 03:40 PM

Hey reg

Calm down, it's almost Christmas !

At the beginning of the 20th Century, the main political parties "ignored" the Irish Issue.

It resulted in most of Ireland leaving the UK (personally I regret this).

What is needed is a fair "Federal UK" settlement - now, this means that the main parties have to talk about a sensible solution NOT keep on ignoring the issue.

This is the only way of saving the Union - and will probably result in a Federal UK.

However, if nothing is done, (ie a fair constitutional settlement) the UK will split into it's component parts.

I personally favour a UK with Home Affairs devolved and Foreign Affairs and Defence, covered by a British Parliament.

(The British put this system into both Canada & Australia and it works !)

reg · 19-12-2007, 03:46 PM

You are backtracking Kentishman.And you dont fool me and I suggest to everyone on this thread and forum not to take what you say at any face value you want an end to the union and its as clear as night follows day.wise up everyone to the EDP

Johnny Hates Jazz · 19-12-2007, 04:57 PM

Some in the English Democrats DO want an end to the Union.

However our official position as confirmed at the last AGM in Leicester in September 2007 is that we want a Federal UK with fiscal automony.

(This is my personal position as well)

However, those who want to preserve the Union at "ALL COSTS TO ENGLAND" , will force a situation where England (representing 85% of the UK population) will no doubt go it's own way.

Wise up if you are a Unionist, you need to compromise, otherwise the Union will dissappear !

reg · 19-12-2007, 05:17 PM

I think looking at the EDP people that come onto this forum its strikes me they do it for one reason.SPAM and for the odd UKIP member to join them pretty sad really

Smidgey · 19-12-2007, 06:17 PM

They wont bring Salmond down. The reason:

The Tories get more out of an SNP minority administration than they would out of a Labour one. Labour are plain awful and have a complete distrust of working with the Tories. The Liberal Democrats are willing to work with everyone, but nobody wants to work with them (they are typical power grabbers).

So on domestic policies the parties that can make a difference actually have the best possible situation from their current seat numbers that they could want (bar Labour).

As for the independence issue - they will veto this every single time it comes up in parliament. Bob's your uncle!

Johnny Hates Jazz · 19-12-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg

I think looking at the EDP people that come onto this forum its strikes me they do it for one reason.SPAM and for the odd UKIP member to join them pretty sad really

Sorry mate, this is our part of the forum

You are posting on the Section that says "English Demcorats", I not too sure how it could be made any clearer.

I rarely post on other parts of this forum these days - that's was the Agreement with Anthony Butcher.

19-12-2007, 02:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	Pro Union Parties must bring down salmond With alex salmond now in poll position in scotland and the English Democrats supporting him and the SNP.The Pro Union Parties in Scotland must now join forces like they should have done before in bringing the SNP down they should of never of let him form a goverment in the first place and should of used there votes to stop him.comments please we must act now before its to late

19-12-2007, 02:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,381	I dont know whetehr the ED party are supporting him or not but I agree, there is a clear Pro Union Majority in that parlaiment and it is about time it made its voice heard. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

19-12-2007, 03:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,973 Party: English Democrats	As I predicted some time ago, the next ideological debate in the UK, will be Unionism v Nationalism. Left v Right is a thing of the past ! __________________ *English Democrats SAY NO* To European Union English not British** not European *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

19-12-2007, 03:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,973 Party: English Democrats	Hey reg Calm down, it's almost Christmas ! At the beginning of the 20th Century, the main political parties "ignored" the Irish Issue. It resulted in most of Ireland leaving the UK (personally I regret this). What is needed is a fair "Federal UK" settlement - now, this means that the main parties have to talk about a sensible solution NOT keep on ignoring the issue. This is the only way of saving the Union - and will probably result in a Federal UK. However, if nothing is done, (ie a fair constitutional settlement) the UK will split into it's component parts. I personally favour a UK with Home Affairs devolved and Foreign Affairs and Defence, covered by a British Parliament. (The British put this system into both Canada & Australia and it works !) __________________ *English Democrats SAY NO* To European Union English not British** not European *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

19-12-2007, 04:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,973 Party: English Democrats	Some in the English Democrats DO want an end to the Union. However our official position as confirmed at the last AGM in Leicester in September 2007 is that we want a Federal UK with fiscal automony. (This is my personal position as well) However, those who want to preserve the Union at "ALL COSTS TO ENGLAND" , will force a situation where England (representing 85% of the UK population) will no doubt go it's own way. Wise up if you are a Unionist, you need to compromise, otherwise the Union will dissappear ! __________________ *English Democrats SAY NO* To European Union English not British** not European *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

19-12-2007, 03:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	There you have it from the horses mouth.A leading EDP figure as he has done in the past saying its Nationalists v Unionists.There you have it RJT the EDP SNP and plaid cmyru.THERE AGENDA TO DESTROY THE UNION That indeed confirms the EDP support the SNP why would they share platforms with them.and post SNP properganda on here because there real intention is to destroy the Union along with there Nationalist freinds. I wish people would wise up and catch themselves on to the real EDP agenda.We as Pro Union People must face up to the SNP and EDP and expose them.

19-12-2007, 03:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	You are backtracking Kentishman.And you dont fool me and I suggest to everyone on this thread and forum not to take what you say at any face value you want an end to the union and its as clear as night follows day.wise up everyone to the EDP

19-12-2007, 05:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	I think looking at the EDP people that come onto this forum its strikes me they do it for one reason.SPAM and for the odd UKIP member to join them pretty sad really

19-12-2007, 06:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,195 Party: Libertarian Party	They wont bring Salmond down. The reason: The Tories get more out of an SNP minority administration than they would out of a Labour one. Labour are plain awful and have a complete distrust of working with the Tories. The Liberal Democrats are willing to work with everyone, but nobody wants to work with them (they are typical power grabbers). So on domestic policies the parties that can make a difference actually have the best possible situation from their current seat numbers that they could want (bar Labour). As for the independence issue - they will veto this every single time it comes up in parliament. Bob's your uncle! __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

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