"Abolish England" - Nick Clegg New Liberal Democrats Leader

SilverFalcon · 19-12-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Even this morning, Cleggie was batting on about adopting a Dutch model in an aspect of our affairs which I did not catch (Education I think) . . . no surprises here then.

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A Dutch model?

Britannist · 19-12-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

I have known Indians who are more English in their outlook and preferences than Cleggie!

Yes, I have also met Indians who are more pro-English and pro-England than Clegg is.

I notice that Clegg holds a constituency (Shefflied Hallam) which is not traditionally 'safe' for his europhile Liberal Dim party (it was a Conservative-held constituency during the time of Lady Thatcher as Prime Minister).

It would be nice if he lost his seat at the next General Election

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cassie · 19-12-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Yes, I have also met Indians who are more pro-English and pro-England than Clegg is.

I notice that Clegg holds a constituency (Shefflied Hallam) which is not traditionally 'safe' for his europhile Liberal Dim party (it was a Conservative-held constituency during the time of Lady Thatcher as Prime Minister).

It would be nice if he lost his seat at the next General Election

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Even more delicious if it were to (or because of) a candidate from an anti-EU party!!!

Westcountryman · 19-12-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Even this morning, Cleggie was batting on about adopting a Dutch model in an aspect of our affairs which I did not catch (Education I think) . . . no surprises here then.

There was a report a while back called "Less is More" which concluded that if we adopted a Dutch approach to regulation, we could minimise the administrative burden of regulation and improve GDP.

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1. The United Kingdom can considerably reduce the regulatory
burden on business by adopting the successful Dutch approach
to reducing administrative costs. This approach involves first
measuring administrative burdens and then setting a target
to reduce them. The golden rule is that what gets measured
gets done.

2. We need a “One in, One out” approach to new regulation, which
forces departments to prioritise between new regulations and to
simplify and remove existing regulations. This will complement the
administrative cost reduction programme.

Exectuive summary and full report available here:

Regulation - Less is More. Reducing Burdens, Improving Outcomes

Bluemerle · 19-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Both Clegg and Huhne as ex MEPs must be in possession of a nice fat EU pension. They will have sworn to support the EU, no matter what, otherwise they can be stripped of their pension.

Britannist · 19-12-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Britannist wrote:
It would be nice if he lost his seat at the next General Election .

Cassie wrote:
Even more delicious if it were to (or because of) a candidate from an anti-EU party!!!

Britannist · 19-12-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluemerle

Both Clegg and Huhne as ex MEPs must be in possession of a nice fat EU pension. They will have sworn to support the EU, no matter what, otherwise they can be stripped of their pension.

Do they have to declare their EU pension (if they each have one)?

SilverFalcon · 20-12-2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluemerle

Both Clegg and Huhne as ex MEPs must be in possession of a nice fat EU pension. They will have sworn to support the EU, no matter what, otherwise they can be stripped of their pension.

It's frightening to consider that a people's destiny and a country's sovereignty could be riding on some one's pension

cassie · 20-12-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverFalcon

It's frightening to consider that a people's destiny and a country's sovereignty could be riding on some one's pension

It is not so much that such matters 'ride' on the pensions, more a case of exposing what individuals truly stand for . . . revealing their 'core beliefs' as the Revd Blair was wont to say.

SilverFalcon · 20-12-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie

It is not so much that such matters 'ride' on the pensions, more a case of exposing what individuals truly stand for . . . revealing their 'core beliefs' as the Revd Blair was wont to say.

Yes, that's even worse!

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Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	Both Clegg and Huhne as ex MEPs must be in possession of a nice fat EU pension. They will have sworn to support the EU, no matter what, otherwise they can be stripped of their pension.