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Old 29-10-2007, 07:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I am a Scot. Not surprisingly, I know quite a few other Scots. I have not experienced a feeling of hatred towards England, or the English.
I have no doubt there are some who do, but it may not be as prevalent as your post implies.
Aye! But do you live in England? Not that I think one individual's personal experience clinches the matter!
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Old 29-10-2007, 08:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Which your party is encouraging. Its the same as Plaid and the SNP. You're all as bad as each other.

That's an easy conclusion to draw . . . although it might have some truth in it!

When one complains about the unfair actions of many representatives of a small part of the UK's population, it will very much appear to be indiscriminate dislike of all Scots. T'aint true!

I know a number of English nationalists who say they have close friends who are Scots. The Scots are a fine nation 'punching above their weight', but that's no reason to continue to allow some of them in government to treat England and the English unfairly, albeit with the connivance of disloyal creatures such as Straw!

Our first step is to insist that voters in England (84%) of the UK's electorate are involved in any referenda ~ including any about independence for Scotland!

Politicians, such as Brown, need to realise that referenda provide a means for voters to express collective views, whether about independence or EU Treaties (aka Constitutions)! Whether politicians have the nerve to take such views into account is another matter but, in any event, Parliament still has the relevant power to exercise . . . I think.

If more of the 600 odd MPs stood up on their hind legs and asserted themselves, we'd have more of a British democracy and less of a Scottish presidential type of dictatorship!
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Nuff said, then!!
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Nuff said, then!!
Not that I think one individual's personal experience clinches the matter, but I don't agree with other EU national getting free university tuition in Scotland while the English, Welsh and NIrish don't.
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Not that I think one individual's personal experience clinches the matter, but I don't agree with other EU national getting free university tuition in Scotland while the English, Welsh and NIrish don't.
I second that.

Furthermore, I don't think the government should be subsidising higher education at all.
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Old 30-10-2007, 01:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I second that.

Furthermore, I don't think the government should be subsidising higher education at all.
I take it you mean the government that includes many university students of the 60's and 70's that went to university on a grant, supplied by the government of the day ()tax-payer).
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I suport independence for England, and would like an English parliament within a federal UK, either would suite me to attempt to get us out of having to fund our British neighbours.

If an English parliament cures this then I would be happy, but if it didn't then yes give me independence for England.

I also think that any party with some decent cash behind it, wantng to progress in the ballot box, such as the EDP, would do far better calling for independence for England.

I feel this would be a vote winner.

and so would not having Asian canditates standing for you
and fighting for the ethnic English and just having a sympathetic ear for the civic English, not the other way around.

But hey, we all know this will not happen.

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ITV Teletext is currently reporting as its main news item (ITV 1 Teletext analogue page 303) that a third of voters in England want England to quit the UK (i.e. for England to split from Scotland) - according to a new opinion poll published in today's Sunday Mail (a Scottish newspaper).

33% of those questioned in England by the pollsters for the Sunday Mail survey said they want England to break from Scotland. A poll in August of this year (the most recent one to be taken in Scotland on the subject) found that 23% of those Scottish people questioned wanted their country to leave the UK.

Support in Scotland for Scotland quitting the UK has fallen since the May 2007 Scottish Parliamentary Elections. England is the one of the four parts of the UK not to have its own legislature.
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Old 30-10-2007, 07:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
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For all its wealth London has some of the most deprived parts of Britian , maybe we could do with a bit more of our taxes being spent on ourselves.
I agree with the above interpretation. We (the people of the capital) pay £5 billion more a year to the UK Treasury than we get back in UK Government public service expenditure in London.

The capital has some of the most deprived parts of the UK (as Ranter points out above) but still has to subsidise some other parts of the UK (as well as pay far more into the EU than it gets back - billions every year).
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I suport independence for England, and would like an English parliament within a federal UK, either would suite me to attempt to get us out of having to fund our British neighbours.

If an English parliament cures this then I would be happy, but if it didn't then yes give me independence for England.

I also think that any party with some decent cash behind it, wantng to progress in the ballot box, such as the EDP, would do far better calling for independence for England.

I feel this would be a vote winner.

and so would not having Asian canditates standing for you
and fighting for the ethnic English and just having a sympathetic ear for the civic English, not the other way around.

But hey, we all know this will not happen.




I live in England but I consider myself to be British. I will REFUSE POINT-BLANK to have any other citizenship than British so there goes your chance of an 'independent' England. Its time New Labour's mess was sorted out and I believe the only way it can be is to pull Britain out of the EU (how they must be loving this pathetic sniping) and to scrap Folyrood and the tinpot assembly in Cardiff but to give both Wales and Scotland more MPs in a renewed and strengthened House of Commons instead.
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