Independent UKIP

Quite accurate that there was no mention of UKIP. There was no mention of the EDs either was there? I had forgotten what they called the group who put out the video, sorry about that. I would've stated that name combined with Newsnight's piece of editorialising that they were "self styled" if I had recalled the exact name. The fact is that I've not heard of this group before and I doubt I'll hear of them again outside of this forum. I trust you'll let us know the impact that piece of publicity has had for your party.

cassie

"Justice for England" (J4E) is the name you're struggling to retain. It should be quite well known around the North Yorkshire area ~ a sticker has been on the tailgate of my estate for over a year now.

No obvious connection with the EDP though. Had it been otherwise, I would have felt constrained to remove it!

To my mind, the most prominent aspect of this Newsnight item was its lack of balance, only one side of the argument was given! Once again the BBC allowed a Scot to pontificate at length without permitting the English point of view to be given. Unfortunately, this is a pattern of conduct we have come to expect from this and the other British broadcasters!

The Beeb's psychology seems to be along the lines of: "Oh yes! Aren't we democratic! We've given airtime to a provocative, anti-British establishment line! We've even contrived to mention increasing English dissatisfaction!"

What is carefully omitted is the suggestion of any kind of alternative to the long standing Brit parties! Result? The dissatisfaction of very many people in England is whipped up, together with feelings of frustration and hopelessness!

Yes, the BBC and others have a strong case to answer for their failure to perform their public-broadcaster functions properly. The effect is detrimental to democracy in England. How can it be otherwise when 84% of UK voters are excluded from proper and proportionate representation in so many aspects of public affairs, especially broadcasting!

Johnny Hates Jazz

Have you found a super market trolley yet without a wonking wheel - it's a tough task but needs must !

Hmm

"No obvious connection with the EDP though. Had it been otherwise, I would have felt constrained to remove it!"

Justice for England was established by Two English Demcorats NC members.

Ed Abrams & Steve Garrett, the Justice for England march in London was co-ordinated by Christine Constable another NC member !

The filming of the march was by Fred Bishop another NC member.

Guess you better remove the sticker from your car, and not bother putting it on your super market trolley !

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cassie

Unlike you dear boy, I can read and understand.

The gist of my comment was expressed earlier in other postings!

Now permit me to try to assist your somewhat limited powers of comprehension.

First, clear your mind of thoughts about supermarket trollys, because you can only deal with one idea at a time.

Second, now read the following very, very slowly: No obvious connection with the EDP

Third, this means that when you read the words "Justice for England" or "J4E" there is no stated ie obvious (meaning to be seen) connection with the EDP or, for that matter [now prepare for another thought!] any other party!

Fourth, I am content with the sticker as it is, for the reason I have given. [Are you still with us?]

Fifth, if YOU have a sticker, it would seem appropriate for you to put it over your keyboard so that you have to remove it before making any more asinine postings, giving you time to think before you post comments which serve to underline your idiocy.

Finally, I would point out that your patriotism is such that you have gone out of your way to ignore what I regard as the more important part of my posting (about BBC bias against England and the English) in order to have an ineffectual pop at me, who is very insignificant in the scheme of things. In doing this you have, once again, demonstrated the pusillanimity which pervades the EDP and, worse from your standpoint, been more likely to add credibility to my criticisms!

I nurture the notion that England and the English will eventually prevail without the likes of you ~ some mothers do 'ave 'em, and yours certainly did!

Now go on! Give yourself a treat, and blame me for having diverted yet another thread!!!

Johnny Hates Jazz

I still think that your future relationship with Shopping Trolleys provides a lot more amusement.

You have yet to prove your loyalty to England and our cause.

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- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections

cassie

Thank goodness your opinion is of no consequence.

Unfortunately for you and your massive ego, you don't realise it!

You prefer bandy words here with me rather than keep EDP members properly informed about the machinations of its leaders.

You ban me from posting on the COSG Forum, yet presume to post silly criticisms of me here. If that's your idea of the kind of England you want, it is not acceptable!

Practice what you preach, before you come here talking about loyalty!

Under your stewardship, the EDP is worse than all the other alternatives!

My idea of England envisages free speech and true democracy! In reality, the EDP (based on its actions rather than what it misleadingly says) threatens fewer rights for the English and less democracy than we have now!

If only you would go away and concentrate entirely on shopping trolleys, your latest fixation, English nationalism would have better prospects of success.


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Andrew Constantine

Tom Wilde

I answer your above question with a "No".

You seem to think it fine to belittle the hard work of a patriotic guy, who in quite challenging personal circumstances at present, is going massive amounts of time and effort to help make England a better place.

The fact that a private citizen manages to get part of his home made video on one of the premier BBC news programmes should impress. It impresses me; but from you we just hear a mocking put down.

Why do you do it? It is witty? Does it make you feel better about yourself?

The supporters of anti-EU parties should offer each other encouragment and help. It's about we ordinary citizens who are trying to make things better, working together to get us out of the EU and to achieve any other shared policy aims.

You are welcome to join us.

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cassie

Concentrating on irrelevant minutiae must be the secret of the EDP's great success. No wonder they are so unjustifiably touchy!

To my mind, the most significant aspect of this occurrence is the scant exposure given to Tom Wilde's video! Here we have the main broadcaster in Britain shoe horning a message about England & the English (comprising 84% of the UK's people) into a few seconds.

Salmond, representing AT MOST some 8% of the UK's population is given an extended free run to propagate his views! When oh when are the English going to be given anything remotely approaching parity of treatment?

We now have the spectacle of yet another Scot, and one with the impudence to sit in an English constituency, prescribing what he has now apparently come to think is a suitable remedy for the democratic deficit in England!!!! I refer of course to Malcolm Rifkind.

When are English nationalists going to combine to assert themselves, instead of stabbing each other in the back?

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Little Englander (sour)

Two words that should never be used in the same sentence, Cassie and backstabbing.

Tom Wilde

Not my video, Cassie! Nothing to do with me at all, except that I made a harmless witticism which upset AC's sensitive sensitivities. If you check his postings in this thread, I think he says that the video was made by a mate of his.