mr.growbag

If anyone feels the BNP and EFP are not extremists, then I suggest they carry out some research into their white supremecist connections in the USA. The views held by their connections are completely at loggerheads with English nationalism.

The EDP do not have a softly softly PC response to the problems facing this country. We simply do not discriminate against someone because of the colour of their skin, or send hate mail and thugs round to deal with people that do not share our views.

Last but not least, I understand Englishman you are or were a supporter of the CIE? This being the case, with the BNP being a unionist party how does that fit in with your views for an independent England?

The fact is the BNP will never deliver an independent England or even consider talking about it, and I very much doubt the CIE would ever consider working with the BNP anyway.

Englishman

I see you haven't answered much of my questions then?

I am not a member of the BNP or the CIE.

I don't and never will proffess that the BNP or any party is perfect, but will say it how it is truthfully.

I support the BNP and any one else who will stop my city from being ethnically and culturally cleansed, which it is, I live in Leciester, we have had enough of it here.
The BNP are the only party who offer a firm solution to the English needs and concerns here in Leicester.
I don't care too much for thir union cause and have let them know this.

I also support an independent England but don't think it is the priorety to stop the ethnic and cultural cleansing of my city, never the less I suport an independent England.

I can support different parties and organisations that I feel have good causes that will benifit England or my city.

My main priorety is to support any one who is trying to stop the ethnic and cultural cleansing of my estate, city and country and my second priorety would be for an independent England.

As a non member of the BNP, or come to think of it, even as a member of the BNP,
I would not have to support all of their policies would I, as its not compulsary to, as is the norm in any party, even in the EDP their are quite a few members who don't suport all of the policies, I know this for a fact, I know of the same with the BNP and no doubt UKIP have the same situation with members etc etc

I just want my area and country saved from its biggest problem that it is facing, and will help and support any one offering to help.

Is this so bad?

Englishman

Also don't take my comments complety and totaly as a negative clean sweep concerning the EDP,
I do give credit where credit is due, they have some just causes, but sadly their main cause is not the main cause on every ones lips and minds, and is not as important as England being ethnically and culturally cleansed.

They also will make their party work in a few areas no doubt, but these will just be the areas like Devon where there is not much if not at all any problem with ethnic and cultural cleansing.

But on a whole in England there are more amd more cities enduring a big problem with ethnic and cultural cleansing, and sadly offering an English nationalist party which has all inclusive answers, will not go down well at all in these areas, as you are practically offering a similar situation to what they are enduring.
The public in these areas which there are very many and it is spreading, want their Cities and country back from this all inclusive nonsense as it is resulting in ethnic and cultural cleansing.

Englishman

The answer you would recieve in my area concerning this acusation would be something to the efect of the Guy Fawlks quote...

"A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy"

or just simpy "an eye for an eye" etc

I can understand their anger and frustration, I hear and see the problems they face on a daily basis here.

This is something you would not understand living in your very English area where all is well.

Ea of Dune

As an interesting side point, somebody had left the Jobs page of the Guardian in the toilet at work the other day. The Jobs page was a joke in it's self, but what caught my eye was an article on Leicester.
The article was "Come and work in Leicester" and one of the sections called something like "What they say about Leicester" and the only thing printed in it was "Whites to become an ethnic minority by 2019".
I'm not sure what the above had to do with jobs in all honesty??? The Guardian is a crazy old paper....

Englishman

Yep, there has been a few predictions of whites becoming a minorety in the near future in Leicester.

Which basically man that the English who sghould be the majorety who just happen to be white people will soon become the minorety, along with the Irish, Scottish and Welsh who exist here in small figures as well.

at the last Census count the white British population of Leicester stood at 60.54% in 2001.
since then we have had Asians still constantly coming in at a steady flow over the last 6 years,
and in more recent years we now have a huge amount of Africans, estimated 1500 in one area, (Yes estimated as they do not know the corect total???) and of course we have had the Poles coming in their droves as well, and we have other middle eastern and eastern Europeon nationals coming in as well.

so I predict the ethnic white British will be a minorety within 5 to 6 years maximum, and white ethnic English to be a minorety within aprox 4 to 5 years aprox.

I will stay and fight to change this all the way.

girlfriday

However the EDP see themselves the fact remains that their voter core is largely from the same element that essentially votes for the likes of the UKIP/BNP (like it or not, UKIPers).

The very big mistake that the EDP are making, as made by UKIP many times over, is the assumption that simply fielding sufficient candidates in say a general election, will deliver them enough publicity to gather votes and new members, without actually having to do any groundwork or even the need for having an established local activist base. This doesn't work.

The problem is that there is little room in that generally rightish/far right corner of the British political spectrum to allow a sufficient drain of votes to both benefit the EDP without damaging UKIP/BNP to a minimum.

The only time the EDP might hae a chance of having an impact would be in the PR election of the GLA and later on, the Euro Parliament, but only then if some sort of arrangement could be reached with UKIP/BNP not to contend the sames areas, otherwise, the EDP will be wiped out (unless the press push them before the elections in a Kilroy sort of way!!).

Until those short-sighted people who think otherwise realise the plain obvious, they (the EDP) will remain not just on the touch line, but locked out of the stadium.

Englander 1

Here is the correct result

There was a 19.98% turnout and the votes were:

Maurice Brookes (English Democrats) 60
Mike English (Local Conservatives) 325
Graham Handley (Liberal Democrats) 38
Sue Pugh (Labour) 504

Englishman

To add to this, me supporting independence for England is a frustration reaction to the despair of what is happening to England within the union,
but I do also realise that this could be dealt with by giving England a parliament, and so would suport an English parliament first to see if this sorts things out.

I also don't care too much for the BNP Union cause as I am a staunch English nationalist, but am open to being convinced that we are strong with a union.

BUT my main concern, is to suport a party who has a real chance of stopping the cultural and ethnic cleansing of the English in Leicester, and the BNP do offer a decent chance of saving my City and England.
And so I support them on this.

cassie

That's all very well, but why should any sensible English nationalist vote or otherwise support the English Democrats Party? Quite simply, it is not democratic and signally fails to practice what it preaches.

Here is another example: The 'Form of Proxy' issued for its general meetings appoints solely the Party Chairman as proxy. The form itself states:
"1. Only voting members of the party may vote. Any other person wishing to vote may only do so if appointed by this proxy on behalf of a voting member."

I am not aware of any EDP Rule which provides for the Chairman to make such a restrictive and fundamentally undemocratic provision.

Moreover, Robin Tilbrook describes himself as "Registered Party Chairman and Nominating Officer" which is misleading. The Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 in Section 24 prescribes registration of "the party’s leader"; "the party’s nominating officer"; and "the party’s treasurer". The Act does not require registration of the Party's "Chairman"! Is this difference deliberate or due to incompetence?

Perhaps Andrew Constantine or Steven Uncles or any other EDP apologist can throw some light on these anomalies?

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