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Old 09-10-2007, 11:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, its like this...
Englander1 and any other EDP's can bang on about whether newport is an English town or not and the West Lothian question, and can welcome immigrants into their English nationalist party etc
But this will not save England in places like Leicester, Bradford, London, Birmingham etc etc from being culturaly and ethnically cleansed.

This is the big main problem that the public want sorting out,
and whilst you profess to focus on England, you are missing this huge issue and not addressing it,
in fact you are encouraging immigrants to come on board into your party, which is what we have done with this country for years and look what it has got us??????????? cultural and ethnic cleansing! people killing us even!!!!

Englander1 you live in an area with an extremely low count of immigrants,
I know, as I have been to your area and worked it in elections.
You are out of touch with areas that have huge amounts of immigrants,
you really don't know what it is like to be culturally and ethnically cleansed,
it doesn't effect you and so you don't care that much and are still in the phase of offering your accomodating hand out to immigrants,
which is evident in your party,
which tells me that most of you live in areas with a very low count of immigrants, which I actualy know is true.

We can bang heads together all day about the EDP and the BNP ,
BUT at the end of the day the evidence is clear,
the BNP have aprox 60 odd Councillors and so they have proggressed over the years along their very long road to get to the success that they are having now, they are the only nationalist party right now who have any realistic chance of making any politcal change in England.

Like it or not, the EDP are many many years too late, and there is no time to wait in areas like Leicester, Bradford, Leeds, Birmigham, London etc etc
but again you don't feel this as you don't live in areas like this,
so you will never feel what we feel in areas like this and you will never understand what is needed to save England and what the reall isssue are.

You view the English opinions from places like Leicester, Birmingham, London, Bradford, Leeds etc as just bitter when we rightly rant on about our situation of ethnic and cultural cleansing, I know because Ive heard you.

Saving Newport/Monmouthshire means absolutely NOTHING AT ALL TO MY PEOPLE AND YOUR PEOPLE IN LEICESTER, BIRMINGHAM, LEEDS, LONDON ETC
saving your people from ethnic and cultural cleansing ARE THE BIG ISSUES and you are not addessing them!,
instead you persist to water down Englishness into a civic all inclusive Englishness, just as labour have done to Britishness, and you persist to campaign on issues that many of the English couldn't give a stuff about...

Do your people want Monmouthshire back as part of England or do they want you to help them stop being culturally and ethnically cleansed?
Go to areas such as Leicester, Leeds, Birmingham, London etc and ask the English, and I know what answer you will get.

F*** Monmouthshire we don't care! we want saving from ethnic and cultural cleansing!!!!!!
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Your comments have been noted, unfortunately you spend too much time telling other people what to do and what they should think...just get on with what you want to do and we will pursue what we want to do.
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Ahh Englishman is a member of the BNP I thought that was why he was so negative about another party not part of the BNP club. I can't abide seeing BNPers trudging round sites making trouble.

The thing I find most interesting is that the BNP have no real interests in Britishness, but have a quite odd view that through using Britishness as a tool to grab peoples attention, what they in fact want is a white supremacist future.

It is quite disgusting that people like Englishman cavort around giving the misleading impression they actually care about the future of England, when in fact all they are are stooges for the BNP.

I think UKIP should be careful to ensure people like Englishman don't slip under the radar and spread their poison here. We have already had problems like that before and we don't want it again.

SOunds like an out and out racist to me, ethnically cleansed, bloody hell he's mad. Get him off he will damage the credibility of the British Forum, the BNP are welcome to him (are they all like that in the BNP????????)

Perhaps this herbert was kicked off the other website because he is just a troublemaker - wouldn't suprise me if he was a benefit bunny, sitting around at home while the rest of us are out earning a living. How do you get the time to leave a trail of negative comments across the web if you had a proper job?!!

I'm interested in what the English Democrats have to say, maybe UKIP could take a few of their ideas?

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British & Proud should now reflect that Ukip are talking much harder now, see the asylum seekers debate. This brings them more in line with the BNP. They are certainly not closer to the vote splitting English Democrats/SNP who are now an anti Wales, anti, English, Anti Scottish, Pro EU, strange alliance. Unionist parties should stand together ( Ukip/BNP ) but not against each other in the polls and crush ED/SNP.
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Dont quite see it that way...an intersting comment I read the other day and I quote "Why does their site promote Britain yet have 3 kids wearing COSG shirts to the right of their logo on their website?

They seem to also follow the regions of England and their leader lives in Wales.

Are the BNP a setup? They seem to be following Browns ideology of slurring Britain and England as the same thing".

It is obvious the B8P have plenty of English Nationalist supporters, and good look to them. They have been around a long time and will attract the support from frustrated voters who see our country being undermined by the British political 'elite'. However the EDP are Englands true National Party and given time and exposure we will continue to grow in strength and influence.
The true National Party of England is the England First Party - England First Party - 'Fighting Anti-English Racism!' - who I believe have, or at least had some councillors in the Manchester region.

The BNP supports the idea of a federation of British nations, where each home country is given autonomy to govern their own affairs, but where it is to our mutual benefit, for example defence, we come together and stand united.
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Your comments have been noted, unfortunately you spend too much time telling other people what to do and what they should think...just get on with what you want to do and we will pursue what we want to do.
Sez you, who spends much of your time telling others to "change the record" and that they have "another agenda", instead of addressing the points at issue!

If you've nothing constructive to add to the subject (as distinct from having a pop at the poster), take your own advice and get on with your own dubious business! We don't need individuals who exercise their democratic right to criticise other parties and policies here, when they deny similar entitlements to others on English Democrats' forums!
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Ahh Englishman is a member of the BNP I thought that was why he was so negative about another party not part of the BNP club.
Firstly, where did Englishman say he was a member of the BNP? I have had a quick scan through his posts in the thread and couldn't find such an admission.

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The thing I find most interesting is that the BNP have no real interests in Britishness, but have a quite odd view that through using Britishness as a tool to grab peoples attention, what they in fact want is a white supremacist future.
The British National Party have no interest in Britishness? Please do elaborate, I'd be interested to understand how you've reached such an absurd conclusion. Yes, it's fair to say that the BNP would prefer the process of mass-immigration was reversed through assisted repatriation schemes. Britain would then of course be a fairly homogenous - and indeed white - land once more, just as it was prior to the 1950s.

The word 'supremacist' is where you really go wrong here. The BNP are not advocating that other peoples are inferior, just that we only have one homeland and it should be preserved for the British people. I agree, that's not politically correct, but we're not a politically correct party, nor are we a white supremacist one.

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I think UKIP should be careful to ensure people like Englishman don't slip under the radar and spread their poison here. We have already had problems like that before and we don't want it again.
Slip under the radar? What's your problem with him posting his political views on a politics forum? It opens up debate, conversely you appear to be trying to stifle it.

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SOunds like an out and out racist to me, ethnically cleansed, bloody hell he's mad. Get him off he will damage the credibility of the British Forum, the BNP are welcome to him (are they all like that in the BNP????????)
Ethnically cleansed is the wrong terminology, certainly it's far too dramatic. But white people are being displaced, that is irrefutable.

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Perhaps this herbert was kicked off the other website because he is just a troublemaker - wouldn't suprise me if he was a benefit bunny, sitting around at home while the rest of us are out earning a living. How do you get the time to leave a trail of negative comments across the web if you had a proper job?!!
No you're really trying to sully his name here, aren't you? Read what you've written. To me it appears that you, sir, are the troublemaker. You are intent on tarnishing this chaps name, there are people on this forum that post more often than Englishman - are they also 'benefit bunnys' or is this wicked slur aimed solely at him?

In short you haven't addressed any of the comments Englishman has raised but have instead tried to taint his reputation and that of the BNP, using conjecture and idle, malignant speculation.

I might add that I am a member of the BNP.
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