Britannist

I suspect that the people of Scotland would not be very pleased if they offered to hold the Rugby World Cup competition and found that it was to be denied their country because English Rugby had made what it called "a rational" decision and gone and done a deal with Spain for it to be held in Madrid instead of Edinburgh.

Smidgey

You have already made that point, and I already said that they probably would be angry.

It doesn't change the fact that the Rugby organisations of Wales and Scotland made the rational choice for their best interests. I have also made the point that the people of Scotland =/= the rugby body of their country, but you keep ignoring that.

Johnny Hates Jazz

Scotland, Wales and Ireland

All out of the World Cup

What joy

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Smidgey

If that is the kind of support Scotland and Wales get from their English brethren, then it is no surprise that they voted for France as the hosts...

And don't say you only feel this way because because of prior events - if you did then you would laugh at the rugby members who voted whatever which way, not at a nation of people who had no say in the matter.

RTSTN

How small minded.

Kevin Adamson

I'll drink to that!

SuperiorSteve

How is it naive? Countries do this all the time. They help other Countries so they have the favour returned.

But Scotland and Wales wouldn't really have had a chance to host the World Cup so they had to vote in someone else's favour. Hosting it in the UK would've been better for them as there would be more matches played in the stadiums of the home Nations, rather than in another State, thus bringing more money into the British economy, improving our GDP. With matches in all British stadiums more money would go directly to those stadiums/Cities/Nations.

Majority means more than anyone else, you said more than their fair share, which is the same thing. Doesn't mean 50% of HM Treasury's funds but more than the rest of us get on a pro rata basis (can't explain properly this bit but not shared out on equal terms).

They owe their allegiance to the UK. Having their support would've meant more money coming into the UK and being spent in each Nation.

How about 6 games if the UK (or England in a home Nations deal) got to host it? I think they are concerned about the subsidies as they are funded, are they not, by their own Governments? Or HMG??

I haven't said this is an EU conspiracy, I basically said that they were trying to help France, and France may vote to retain CAP which would help them. It's the system politicians have relied on for years, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

Many people in Wales and Scotland are hostile to us English. Scotland has a first minister. If they want independence then they should have it and we can save money and have our taxes reduced. Obviously, as I have stood in the elections a few times and am using my free time to post on forums I think I am concerned about the UK's interests. I don't like Nations who are supposed to be friends, allies or Brits slating the UK or acting against us so they can have an advantage later on.

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SuperiorSteve

What do you expect when Wales and Scotland voted against England getting to host the World Cup? We could've had more money coming into the UK as a result but Wales and Scotland thought France should get the lion's share of the cash. Obviously this is due to previous events. When Ireland (North and South), Wales or Scotland win against a foreign team we are happy because they are home Nations.

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