English & Scottish Nationalists Talking

Johnny Hates Jazz · 21-09-2007, 11:39 PM

British Nationalists in Wales WATCH: Scots and English Nats are Talking

It's Time

Westcountryman · 21-09-2007, 11:41 PM

Support Cornwall as an independent state? Is that a joke?

cassie · 22-09-2007, 12:00 AM

Neither Mebyon Kernow nor the English Democrats Party are credible.

The former because an independent Cornwall is not viable. Even if it succeeded in removing itself from being part of England, it would require support from another source.

The latter because it accords no rights nor fairness to its members. Probably because it is managed by those who finance it. A political party should practice the values it professes to promote. If it does not, it does not merit support, but rather opposition for the deleterious standards it embodies in practice. These standards will be amply demonstrated by English Democrats' reaction to this posting, which will be to attack me rather than to address the issues I've raised here.

cassie · 22-09-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kentishman

British Nationalists in Wales WATCH: Scots and English Nats are Talking

It's Time

Which particular English Democrat will be addressing the forthcoming SNP "73rd Annual National Conference" 26-28 Oct next - or is it the usual one-way traffic? You know - the English give, the Scots take.

A66 · 22-09-2007, 04:19 PM

Massive own goal by the vote splitting English Democrats, talking to their new best friends the Pro-Euro SNP. The Union has just got stronger !!!

Tom Wilde · 22-09-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kentishman

British Nationalists in Wales WATCH: Scots and English Nats are Talking

It's Time

Yes, Kentishman, I've been meaning to ask you about that. Given that the English Democrats are happy to talk with their fraternal nationalists in Scotland, does your party also intend to get chummy with the Cornish nationalists too? If not, why not? What is the ED's official position on this one?

(Incidentally, I believe I'm right in saying that Mebyon Kernow is a bigger party with more councillors than the English Democrats).

Britannist · 22-09-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

Support Cornwall as an independent state? Is that a joke?

Cornwall is English and British.

I totally oppose those - such as the europhile 'Mebyon Kernow' - who seek to break up England.

Britannist · 22-09-2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A66

Massive own goal by the vote splitting English Democrats, talking to their new best friends the Pro-Euro SNP. The Union has just got stronger !!!

For some time I have advised that the English Democrats (ED) having nothing to do with the europhile and anti-UK Scottish so-called 'National' Party (who are, like the Scottish Liberal 'Democrats') the political arm of the EU in Scotland.

I was most disappointed to read that an MP from the Scottish so-called 'National' Party (SNP) was allowed to speak to the English Democrat conference at Leicester last weekend.

When I complained on the pages of the forum about an SNP person speaking to the ED conference someone who presumably supported the decision to allow the MP to speak at the conference replied giving as the the excuse the fact that the SNP MP "is a nice man".

Johnny Hates Jazz · 22-09-2007, 11:09 PM

Britainist

I assume that you are a Democrat ?

In which case you will respect those who have a different view then yourself.

We had 4 Political Parties represented at the English Conference

1 English Demcorats

2 Scottish National Party - SNP

3 UKIP

4 Liberal Party

================================================

Our aim as English Democrats is to "Put England First" we will do whatever it takes to achieve our policy of an English Parliament.

3 of these parties have a Euro-Sceptic Stand

3 of these parties would back an English Parliament within a Federal UK

2 of these parties believe in self determination of the English and Scottish people

It's only by talking to people that you can determine what common ground you have.

KM

Populist Lee · 22-09-2007, 11:32 PM

If they're talking to one of the Devil's own [the SNP], I could quite happily send the other three parties to an abattoir.

21-09-2007, 11:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,944	English & Scottish Nationalists Talking British Nationalists in Wales WATCH: Scots and English Nats are Talking It's Time __________________ English or British or European ? *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

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Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	Support Cornwall as an independent state? Is that a joke? __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,944	Britainist I assume that you are a Democrat ? In which case you will respect those who have a different view then yourself. We had 4 Political Parties represented at the English Conference 1 English Demcorats 2 Scottish National Party - SNP 3 UKIP 4 Liberal Party ================================================ Our aim as English Democrats is to "Put England First" we will do whatever it takes to achieve our policy of an English Parliament. 3 of these parties have a Euro-Sceptic Stand 3 of these parties would back an English Parliament within a Federal UK 2 of these parties believe in self determination of the English and Scottish people It's only by talking to people that you can determine what common ground you have. KM __________________ English or British or European ? *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

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22-09-2007, 12:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,640	Neither Mebyon Kernow nor the English Democrats Party are credible. The former because an independent Cornwall is not viable. Even if it succeeded in removing itself from being part of England, it would require support from another source. The latter because it accords no rights nor fairness to its members. Probably because it is managed by those who finance it. A political party should practice the values it professes to promote. If it does not, it does not merit support, but rather opposition for the deleterious standards it embodies in practice. These standards will be amply demonstrated by English Democrats' reaction to this posting, which will be to attack me rather than to address the issues I've raised here.

22-09-2007, 04:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
A66 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CO DURHAM Posts: 124	Massive own goal by the vote splitting English Democrats, talking to their new best friends the Pro-Euro SNP. The Union has just got stronger !!!

22-09-2007, 11:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Populist Lee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,965	If they're talking to one of the Devil's own [the SNP], I could quite happily send the other three parties to an abattoir.