Bye-Election Hyde Newton 5 Feb 09 - UKIP Candidate
Hyde Newton - Tameside Council
Peter BALL-FOSTER (Liberal Democrats)
Phillip FITZPATRICK (Labour Party)
Rosalind GAUCI (British National Party)
Angela McMANUS (UK Independence Party)
Nigel ROLLAND (Green Party)
John WELSH (Conservative)
Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY
She might do just enough to keep the Labour Party in and the BNP out.
Labour vow to defeat BNP - News - Manchester Evening News
The only certainty is that UKIP are setting themselves up to be comprehensively beaten by the BNP. BNP were second last time out and the local newspaper is treating it like a 2 way fight, as are Labour.
We are a political party, our aim is to stand in as many elections as possible. Do you suggest the Tories not stand in Glenrothes?
I know it is a hard seat to stand in, it is our first attempt at this ward and the BNP have worked it for a long time. We will however put in a good solid effort, every journey starts with a single step
Yes - we should aim to have candidate in every seat regardless.
Agree UKIP should stand as thats what parties do but............ with the euros around the corner will it help the moral of the party if as expected they get another poor election result and will the voters then see BNP as the party to vote for on June 4th? these are the questions i would ask before putting a candidate in place for an possible embarrassing result. Seat selection is always vital and must be thought through carefully i dont think UKIP have a clue when looking at such things and at times do themselves more damage
You may be right, and I certainly cannot say with complete confidence that you are wrong, but my guess is that it is much more likely that the UKIP candidate will take a few votes that would otherwise have gone to the Tories. The socio-economic profile of the two parties' electorates suggest that there are relatively few UKIP/BNP crossover voters, far fewer than the BNP leadership perhaps thinks. The large scale proof of this proposition is that the collapse of the UKIP vote in London at the GLA elections was not mirrored by a significant increase in the BNP vote, which went up by about 0.5 per cent. The ex-UKIP voters just went home to the Conservative party, as so many of them will in June.
"His name is iniquity and mine is retribution!"
Yes stand in every seat….
But….
Where is the bye-election blue-print?
Since UKIP was formed it has been a case of individual members standing on their own initiative with their own –often-amateurish – campaigns. The result has been bye-election after bye-election humiliation.
Meanwhile the BNP have honed their bye-election blue print so they can turn up in most wards – pour people and resources – often shoe-string resources – into the ward and often get incredibly high results.
UKIP have had 13 or 14 years to get it right and still they do nothing.
Until they do UKIP candidates will continue to be humiliated.
From the foundations of local election successes the building blocks of parliamentary successes are built.
Thats a fair analysis,but if even a very small number of would-be BNP voters go to UKIP(the current UKIP vote is 0%),and the Socialists win by a very small margin,the effect of the UKIP candidate will have been to maintain the staus quo.
Big doifference in london and not an area that can be compared as due to immigration/migration the liklihood of BNP vote being compared to the previous GLA is not a good example. Locally UKIP fought ibstock when the toies won here in NW Leics may 2007 we then took there position the tory vote went down and ours was a lot higher than UKIP got i would say the vast majority that voted UKIP in may 2007 voted BNP in Jan & Dec 2008
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