Bournemouth council by-election on 15 December

claire stone · 16-12-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

While the BNP core philosophy is abhorant, the fact is, with a lot less members and resource, punch well above their weight.

Their website is better than UKIP's

They get zero media coverage (other than bad stuff), so they use the avenues open to them much better than UKIP.

They are building a good illusion that they give a toss about more than just kicking out foreigners.

If they didn't have so many criminals running the party, a history of thuggary, and a core philiosphy of racism, they would probably have done very well, rather than the fouth place out of four they managed here.

Everytime I hear the leadership bemoaning the fact the media hate us and we don't have the money, I just think what the BNP do with their limited resource and I realise what b******s it is.

Yes its time to stop blaming the media for everything! The BNP suffer a lot worse than we do. I'm fully aware of what a biased media we have, we have to own up sometimes to our own mistakes rather than hiding behind media smears.

Independence Now! · 17-12-2005, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Christina

Lib Dems 4 Cameron

http://www.libdems4cameron.com/

Well, that is highly appropriate seeing as they are the Lib Dems under a different colour! :roll:

I wonder what the few REAL Conservatives still left in the Tory Party think about a leader who clearly doesn't give a toss for their values or their efforts at trying to persuade the equally worthless (to Cameron) base of Tory support to come out and vote?

Why don't they just be honest for once and have a full merger with the Liberal Democrats? :roll:

Mikeuk · 17-12-2005, 11:08 AM

I've been getting emails from disillusioned Tories including a parliamentary candidate and a sitting councillor telling me how much they hate Cameron and his politically correct decision to introduce positive discrimination and tyrannise constituency organisations.

I've told them that they can join UKIP and remain members of the Tories where they should lie low until the time comes to go for CaMORON.

This is just the beginning. At the same time he is busy upsetting Clarke and the Federasts. Of course he'll backtrack on the EPP issue and end up making enemies on all sides.

Good to see that this slimy little spiv has started as he means to carry on.

Mikeuk · 17-12-2005, 11:15 AM

'Chad' (who no longer posts here since he got a good drubbing), is now claiming that he is the secret mastermind behind 'David's' latest strategy.

Dream on buddy!!!!!

:wink: :twisted:

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Yes, as I noted before, once we stepped back inside the Conservative Party, it reenabled 'progressive', by far the best description of our lib/con values, as a term that David could use.

Who would have thought back in July this year that the Tory leader would be happily describing his progressive values within 6 months? ProgCon only went live in May.

We are certainly helping to set the progressive agenda and must ensure they continue to do so up to the next election and beyond.

Let's hope we, as progcons in general, can have similar influence in the US too.

Percentage · 17-12-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

'Chad' (who no longer posts here since he got a good drubbing), is now claiming that he is the secret mastermind behind 'David's' latest strategy.

Dream on buddy!!!!!

:wink: :twisted:

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Yes, as I noted before, once we stepped back inside the Conservative Party, it reenabled 'progressive', by far the best description of our lib/con values, as a term that David could use.

Who would have thought back in July this year that the Tory leader would be happily describing his progressive values within 6 months? ProgCon only went live in May.

We are certainly helping to set the progressive agenda and must ensure they continue to do so up to the next election and beyond.

Let's hope we, as progcons in general, can have similar influence in the US too.

Sheer egotism & completley preposterous!

Christina · 17-12-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

'Chad' (who no longer posts here since he got a good drubbing),

No, you and he were told to stop the bickering but only he got banned and here you are again. :roll:

Percentage · 18-12-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

I've told them that they can join UKIP and remain members of the Tories where they should lie low until the time comes to go for CaMORON.

The thing is though mike,as most landlords would say,once you rent your property out to tenents,they can have a nasty habit of wrecking the joint!

Surely even a Radio 3 listener such as yourself has heard of the shenanigans on the South Coast with Harry Redknapp! :wink:

scotgirl · 18-12-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

I've told them that they can join UKIP and remain members of the Tories where they should lie low until the time comes to go for CaMORON.

is that official UKIP policy ?

Tillycat · 18-12-2005, 10:28 AM

And who said UKIP wasn't a Tory pressure group!

For God sake why are UKIP so bloody obsessed with the friggin Tories - leave them alone and start proper campaigning based on proper policies and effective opposition!

C_steam · 18-12-2005, 10:56 AM

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is that official UKIP policy ?

absolutely not. The quicker any concept of dual membership is extinguished the better.

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17-12-2005, 11:08 AM	#63 (permalink)
Mikeuk Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fareham Posts: 5,638 Party: Conservatives	I've been getting emails from disillusioned Tories including a parliamentary candidate and a sitting councillor telling me how much they hate Cameron and his politically correct decision to introduce positive discrimination and tyrannise constituency organisations. I've told them that they can join UKIP and remain members of the Tories where they should lie low until the time comes to go for CaMORON. This is just the beginning. At the same time he is busy upsetting Clarke and the Federasts. Of course he'll backtrack on the EPP issue and end up making enemies on all sides. Good to see that this slimy little spiv has started as he means to carry on.

18-12-2005, 10:28 AM	#69 (permalink)
Tillycat Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Woking (Apparently there is an active branch!) Posts: 169	And who said UKIP wasn't a Tory pressure group! For God sake why are UKIP so bloody obsessed with the friggin Tories - leave them alone and start proper campaigning based on proper policies and effective opposition!