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    Quote Originally Posted by CB100 View Post
    Given that migrants aren't going to disappear in a puff of smoke, the unemployed have 2 choices:

    1) either come to terms with reality and make themselves at least as valuable to an employer as a migrant.
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    2) moan about how unfair life is and remain unemployed.

    Those people that select option 2) are confirming the reason why many employers prefer migrants rather than British workers - bad attitude and an inflated view of their economic worth.
    The people who have a bad attitude and an inflated view of their worth are accountants,investment advisors,estate agents and lawyers. No one would object to thousands of those coming in to create a huge surplus and reduce fees. It would be good to see them reduced to working for £6 an hour.

    But then of course all the thieving lawyers would be opposing immigration, not supporting it.
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    The UK is unable to stop migrants coming here from other EU countries so British workers with low skills would be advised to stop complaining about immigration and come to terms with it. Complaining about migrants taking British jobs is rather like complaining when it rains. It changes nothing.

    Economic value is a function of intelligence, skills and a strong "can do" attitude. The more any worker has of those 3 elements, the higher their value. There is no mystery to it.

    If migrants offer employers better value for money than British workers, then they will get the jobs. So what British workers need to do is accept reality and start competing harder for those jobs not wating to be given "first bite of the cherry". If they wait for that, they will remain unemployed.

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    What absolute nonsense! British citizens (of whatever ethnicity) are not given first bite of the cherry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB100 View Post
    The UK is unable to stop migrants coming here from other EU countries so British workers with low skills would be advised to stop complaining about immigration and come to terms with it. Complaining about migrants taking British jobs is rather like complaining when it rains. It changes nothing.

    Economic value is a function of intelligence, skills and a strong "can do" attitude. The more any worker has of those 3 elements, the higher their value. There is no mystery to it.

    If migrants offer employers better value for money than British workers, then they will get the jobs. So what British workers need to do is accept reality and start competing harder for those jobs not wating to be given "first bite of the cherry". If they wait for that, they will remain unemployed.
    Strange how we managed to be the most successful nation in the world for 1000 years before we had mass immigration. You anti British types make me sick. You've made all your wealth here and now despise those who made it for you, the British worker.
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    The UK is unable to stop migrants coming here from other EU countries so British workers with low skills would be advised to stop complaining about immigration and come to terms with it. Complaining about migrants taking British jobs is rather like complaining when it rains. It changes nothing.
    Don't be so damn silly!
    The EU is NOT a phenomenon of nature. It can be challenged. It can be defied. It can be abandoned.

    And its not only 'low skilled' workers negatively impacted by EU immigrants (they are not all 'migrants', birds of passage, most of them wnat to stay here), every British citizen is affecte dnegatively because they are occupying our country, our space, our homes, our schools , our hospitals.

    We will not shut up and 'get used to it' much as Globalist bullies try to silence us and ignore the democratic wishes of the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamingreen View Post
    Don't be so damn silly! The EU is NOT a phenomenon of nature. It can be challenged. It can be defied. It can be abandoned.
    When / if the UK leaves the EU there are other options available but unless or until that happens, complaining about immigrants taking British jobs achieves zero for unemployed Brits.

    And its not only 'low skilled' workers negatively impacted by EU immigrants (they are not all 'migrants', birds of passage, most of them wnat to stay here), every British citizen is affecte dnegatively because they are occupying our country, our space, our homes, our schools , our hospitals.
    You say it affects every British citizen negatively. It doesn't affect me at all. Anyone that wants to pay the same school fees I pay for my kids is welcome to send their kids to the same school. Same for the use of BUPA hospitals. Immigrants can pay the same medical insurance premiums I pay. It doesn't matter to me.

    We will not shut up and 'get used to it' much as Globalist bullies try to silence us and ignore the democratic wishes of the people.
    When you say "we", does that mean you are unemployed?

    The unemployed can shout and complain as much as they wish about immigrants but it will make zero difference.

    I think it is much better for them to focus on doing something practical now ie compete with migrants to get a job instead of waiting for the UK to leave the EU. By that time (if it ever happens), any Brit still out of work will be regarded by employers as unemployable not just unemployed.

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    The only practical thing the British can do to compete is work for less and less pay as more and more people are allowed in by the government with the full collusion of the employers who make the profits from the workers. That's why immigration isn't being cut.

    The basic wage will probably be abolished this year as the employers and government collude in order to "stimulate the economy and create full employment."

    Full employment of underpaid slaves is what they want. We'll be like the Chinese. Working all day for 50p.
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    You say it affects every British citizen negatively. It doesn't affect me at all. Anyone that wants to pay the same school fees I pay for my kids is welcome to send their kids to the same school. Same for the use of BUPA hospitals. Immigrants can pay the same medical insurance premiums I pay. It doesn't matter to me.
    Well of course the far right privileged classes AREcertainly less impacted by immigration, however when your children go to univeristy in a large city and get mugged for their iphones, when they come out of uni and cannot get a job, when you're driving on our overcrowded roads and a Polish lorry driver runs into you going around the roundabout the wrong way, and when you are a speech damaged oldie being cared for by foreigners who cannot understand you, in your expensive BUPA care home you will no longer have the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude that you display!

    And as for what life will be like for your grandchildren, I dread to think. Money can insulate you from a great deal, but it is an ephemeral thing.
    Many of the rich Jewish people of pre WW2 Europe assumed their comfortable lives would go on for ever, little anticipating the horror that lay ahead.
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    I would rep you for that but the software won't let me, well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamingreen View Post
    Well of course the far right privileged classes AREcertainly less impacted by immigration
    I'm not far right; quite mainstream in my politics actually. And any privileges I have were earned through my skills and hard work. The same should apply to everyone else, no more and no less.

    however when your children go to univeristy in a large city and get mugged for their iphones,
    My daughter has already been mugged for her iphone....by a black British man. So I wouldn't ascribe greater criminal tendencies to immigrants than to our home grown underclass.

    when they come out of uni and cannot get a job,
    Top students coming out of university have nothing to fear from migrant workers. What Brits need to focus on is competing and winning not giving up because it all looks too difficult. We seem to have too many people looking to scapegoat migrants as cover for their own inadequacies.

    Then you're driving on our overcrowded roads and a Polish lorry driver runs into you going around the roundabout the wrong way, and when you are a speech damaged oldie being cared for by foreigners who cannot understand you, in your expensive BUPA care home you will no longer have the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude that you display!
    It's nothing to do with "I'm alright Jack". Anyone can fall under a bus or anything else.

    What I am saying is there is no point in railing against things you can't change. The poles and other EU migrants are here and they aren't going anywhere whilst we remain in the EU. So unemployed people should focus on what they can control not what they can't. It's common sense. Although I do accept that "sense" is, unfortunately, not that common..

    And as for what life will be like for your grandchildren, I dread to think. Money can insulate you from a great deal, but it is an ephemeral thing. Many of the rich Jewish people of pre WW2 Europe assumed their comfortable lives would go on for ever, little anticipating the horror that lay ahead.
    As with my earlier point about my daughter's mugger, we have plenty of our own people quite capable of any such attrocities given half a chance. I would not point a finger at any particular nationality and suggest they are any better or worse than our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB100 View Post
    Yes, that's right. Given the situation won't change, the unemployed need to accept the realties of life and start seriously competing with migrants for jobs rather than bemoaning how unfair life is and remaining without a job.
    But the situation IS going to change,it is going to get much worse and it will do so for years to come! And another situation will also change,and this one is the willingness of the majority of British people to play by the rules set by the people who masterminded this mess and continue to profit from it! I personally have no qualms at all about watching these cvnts die in agony and will never lift a finger to defend their profits or their lives,they have shown no mercy to anyone so they should not be surprised when people follow their example,and I have been a very keen student of their methods!
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